NFL: Kansas City Chiefs Thread

[SEIOWA CLONE]

I'm not talking about who's had the best career. I like living in the present, so I'm talking about who's playing the best right now. And folks who insist Purdy isn't playing the best right now are either very biased (which is not unusual in the sports world) or very ignorant.

But the window of the best switches very quickly, it was only a year to two ago they were saying that Barrow's and Allen where the best in the league, before that was the guy in Baltimore.
Without a doubt Purdy is playing at a very high level, his next challenge is winning a super bowl or two and still be producing at a high level, something that Mahomes continues to do.

The 49ers are in the sweet spot of having a high producing QB that they are paying basically nothing for. That is not going to continue forever. The have this year and next for the cheap Purdy dollar wise, and then they are going to have to sign him to an expensive contract before he becomes a FA after his fourth season, which will eat up cap space and then they will have to let some of the other talent go.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

No that's last year. You're saying that because Mahomes's team won the Superbowl last year and because he was voted the MVP last year, he's the league's best QB this year. Ask any player in the NFL and they'll tell you that right now last year doesn't mean squat.

They are 5 games into the season, let's have the season playout before we start measuring Purdy for a jacket for the hall of fame and start calling him the GOAT.

 

[Pope]

They are 5 games into the season, let's have the season playout before we start measuring Purdy for a jacket for the hall of fame and start calling him the GOAT.

Didn't say I was calling him the GOAT or he belongs in the Hall of Fame. He's 10-0 as a starter in the NFL, setting NFL and franchise records, and has the highest QB rating in the league right now, and it's not even close. Just saying he belongs in the same conversation as all the other great QBs this year.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Didn't say I was calling him the GOAT or he belongs in the Hall of Fame. He's 10-0 as a starter in the NFL, setting NFL and franchise records, and has the highest QB rating in the league right now, and it's not even close. Just saying he belongs in the same conversation as all the other great QBs this year.

No one is saying he is not in the discussion as the top QB in the league. What I and others are saying is let's give him a season or two before we say he is at the top of the heap.

 

[ZRF]

I am not doubting him. I am a big Purdy fan. See the pfp???

But he has an insane team around him that is breaking the roster building barriers that are supposed to exist with a salary cap.

This isn't entirely untrue, but I think, much like the Mahomes situation, Kyle Shanahan has a LOT to do with SFs success. When you watch that offense and the play designs they are next ******* level. Now having guys like Kittle, McCaffrey, etc make it EASIER for those plays to materialize but there's a reason it took Purdy's insertion for things to really click.

Purdy linking up with Shanahan was as fortunate for both as Mahomes linking up with Reid. Andy Reid always had some of the best play designs in the NFL, going back to his days with Philly. Those delayed inside screens/pitches the Chiefs run so well were created by Reid. Now with Purdy and McCaffrey, with the latter's most important attribute (to the offense) possibly being an added threat to the passing game, you are now seeing an unstoppable offense. Shanahan's exploiting of defenses is approaching (if not already on) next level status. It's exactly what Reid brought to KC and what players like Mahomes, Kelce, and Hill allowed him to execute.

 

[BryceC]

Purdy has been great. I don't want to be one of those doubter people. But I do wonder if he would look as good with KC's pu pu platter of receivers. My point is simply you can't look at a guy and say here are the numbers they are obviously the best. There is some context that can go into the evaluation as well.

Purdy is doing as well as anybody could possibly want as the QB of the 49ers. I'd say the same for Mahomes and the Chiefs too honestly. Hope both keep winning and I have a literal "I can't lose" super bowl.

 

[Dandy]

Purdy has been great. I don't want to be one of those doubter people. But I do wonder if he would look as good with KC's pu pu platter of receivers. My point is simply you can't look at a guy and say here are the numbers they are obviously the best. There is some context that can go into the evaluation as well.

Purdy is doing as well as anybody could possibly want as the QB of the 49ers. I'd say the same for Mahomes and the Chiefs too honestly. Hope both keep winning and I have a literal "I can't lose" super bowl.

This was a essentially discussion on the Bill Simmons podcast from last night.

If Mahomes is in New England, could he carry NE to the playoffs? Yes.
Can Mac Jones carry NE to the playoffs? No.
Could Mac Jones play this well if he was on the Niners? Maybe, but probably not.
Could Purdy carry NE to the playoffs? No.

 

[BryceC]

NE sucks. I don’t think anybody could take them to the playoffs. But I get the point.

 

[Pope]

Purdy has been great. I don't want to be one of those doubter people. But I do wonder if he would look as good with KC's pu pu platter of receivers. My point is simply you can't look at a guy and say here are the numbers they are obviously the best. There is some context that can go into the evaluation as well.

Purdy is doing as well as anybody could possibly want as the QB of the 49ers. I'd say the same for Mahomes and the Chiefs too honestly. Hope both keep winning and I have a literal "I can't lose" super bowl.

Last week, some of the "experts" claimed the 49ers would be better if they had Prescott at QB and Cowboys wouldn't be as good if they had Purdy at QB. Well, those experts look pretty stupid this morning.

 

[dahliaclone]

Not saying KC is the best in the league right now...they aren't. But it's kinda humorous to me how so many are questioning how far they can go this season. They're 4-1 with the loss by one without Jones and Kelce to a team that is a dark horse Super Bowl contender. I fully expect the Chiefs to be 7-1 heading into two very tough games against Miami and Philly. We'll see where things are after that. Reid teams typically get better as the season goes...

 

[zarnold56]

Rice is becoming our best receiver as a rookie. Liked what we saw from Ross too being able to get open, but gotta make the routine catches. MVS and Moore have been disappointing. MVS hopefully will be the clutch version later in the year like last year.

They gotta stop giving the ball to CEH if they can. Dude is a black hole when we gets a running play.

 

[deadeyededric]

I'm as serious as a heart attack.

But I guess you are correct when you say Purdy isn't even close to Mahomes. If you you look at any meaningful statistical ranking of NFL QB's this season, Mahomes is looking up at Purdy and "it isn't even close."

You're a ******* clown. Mahomes is an astronomically better player than Brock Purdy. Get ******* real. Go jerk off in the 49ers thread. Is there anyone other than an ISU fan who thinks what you do? Probably not. Not even 49ers fans are that ignorant.

 

[BryceC]

Last week, some of the "experts" claimed the 49ers would be better if they had Prescott at QB and Cowboys wouldn't be as good if they had Purdy at QB. Well, those experts look pretty stupid this morning.

Some people are making dumb arguments or bad faith arguments. I can’t help that.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Something has been missing from the offense this entire year, the young receivers have yet to step forward, and we are getting a lot of dropped passes. This was supposed to be the year that Toney really took off and showed everyone just how good he could be, well through 5 games we are still waiting.

I told my youngest son the other day, that what the Chiefs need to do in the 24 draft is trade every pick it takes to grab the best WR and edge rusher that is on the board. Even if that means dealing on the 25 draft picks to do so.
The Chiefs are built to win now, and win big, but to continue to do so means getting quality people for those two positions, the rest of the team is young, and we can afford to throw the dice and get two great players for a season or two.

 

[Pope]

You're a ******* clown. Mahomes is an astronomically better player than Brock Purdy. Get ******* real. Go jerk off in the 49ers thread. Is there anyone other than an ISU fan who thinks what you do? Probably not. Not even 49ers fans are that ignorant.

Spare me your insults, take off your Chiefs glasses, and look at the numbers below. If Mahomes is "astronomically better" than Purdy, then why does Mahomes rank below Purdy in every meaningful 2023 QB statistic?

I hope the Chiefs and the Niners make it to the Superbowl, because if they do, I'm pretty confident it will be Purdy, not Mahomes, holding the MVP trophy.

 

[deadeyededric]

Spare me your insults, take off your Chiefs glasses, and look at the numbers below. If Mahomes is "astronomically better" than Purdy, then why does Mahomes rank below Purdy in every meaningful 2023 QB statistic?

I hope the Chiefs and the Niners make it to the Superbowl, because if they do, I'm pretty confident it will be Purdy, not Mahomes, holding the MVP trophy.

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Even some random hitters hit better than Tony Gwynn and George Brett in certain seasons. Doesn't mean they were better hitters. Patrick Mahomes will go down as the best statistical QB ever and it wont even be ******* close. He's gonna get more rings too. Purdy can't make plays without being in Shanahan's offense. End of story. He is having a good year. Just like Alex Smith used to for the Chiefs. Good system QB. It ends there. The 49ers have a way better roster than KC too. Put Purdy on the Chiefs and they have 1 win this year. And considering the "experts" from around the country echo my thoughts they are hardly Chiefs blinders.

 

[zarnold56]

Spare me your insults, take off your Chiefs glasses, and look at the numbers below. If Mahomes is "astronomically better" than Purdy, then why does Mahomes rank below Purdy in every meaningful 2023 QB statistic?

I hope the Chiefs and the Niners make it to the Superbowl, because if they do, I'm pretty confident it will be Purdy, not Mahomes, holding the MVP trophy.

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Dude, like everyone here is rooting for Brock. He also can throw it to about 4 playmakers that are on or close to Kelce's level. Patrick is breaking in a whole new receiving core and has many years of tape for defenses to scout. Chiefs also had to build their roster around paying Mahomes high dollars already.

QB is a position defined by clutch wins and SB's rightly or wrongly. Mahomes is still doing that. Chances are if the 49ers and Chiefs make the SB, the 49ers will be favored and have a more complete roster. I hope Brock goes on to the win the MVP this year, but the way you look at this like it is black or white with no shades of nuance is dumb.

 

[deadeyededric]

Dude, like everyone here is rooting for Brock. He also can throw it to about 4 playmakers that are on or close to Kelce's level. Patrick is breaking in a whole new receiving core and has many years of tape for defenses to scout. Chiefs also had to build their roster around paying Mahomes high dollars already.

QB is a position defined by clutch wins and SB's rightly or wrongly. Mahomes is still doing that. Chances are if the 49ers and Chiefs make the SB, the 49ers will be favored and have a more complete roster. I hope Brock goes on to the win the MVP this year, but the way you look at this like it is black or white with no shades of nuance is dumb.

These people think Brock Purdy is better than Patrick Mahomes. Let that sink in. Apparently if you don't echo their moronic thoughts we aren't really ISU fans. Like I give a **** what ISU players do after they leave college. I actually have an NFL team I root for and couldn't give a **** less how many former Cyclones are on it. Means nothing to me at all. This is pro. Can't wait for the George Niang is better than Lebron James argument.

 

[mynameisjonas]

Patrick Mahomes will go down as the best statistical QB ever (after Brock Purdy) and it wont even be ******* close. Put Purdy on the Chiefs and they are Undefeated.

FIFY …..don’t be mad.

 

[deadeyededric]

FIFY …..don’t be mad.

You people couldn't sound anymore like ******* idiots. Is Will McDonald the next Lawrence Taylor too? Go back to the Purdy Circle Jerk forum.