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Aclone

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A. It looks like 99% of other empty stadiums. Seen the Big House or Beaver or really any other stadium? They're all rows and rows of aluminum emptiness.

B. Spending millions of dollars for like, .01% of the population that spends time looking at empty stadium photos doesn't seem like a great use of resources.
You know, all that I had to do was check one. Even one that you suggested.

If you don’t think a recruit walks into a stadium and could think, “Nice, but not as nice as the big boys”…you probably went to UNI.
 

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1SEIACLONE

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Keep in mind how many seats you'd still lose with doing this. Would you increase the price of the tickets to cover for the lost ticket sales from the decreased capacity, just for the sake of putting these seats in? I wouldn't see the value in that personally, and I'd just keep paying for my regular seat backs.
You would have to run the numbers, to see if it would be worth the while money wise, but added enhancement are what fans wants today. I would guess it would eliminate about 5K seats at the most, maybe only a couple thousand on each side.
 

1UNI2ISU

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You know, all that I had to do was check one. Even one that you suggested.

If you don’t think a recruit walks into a stadium and could think, “Nice, but not as nice as the big boys”…you probably went to UNI.
Just as I said. The Big House bowl is nothing but aluminum nothingness with the same faded aluminum making up the 'M'. No recruit is going 'Hmmmm, I loved everything about Iowa State, clicked with the staff and could really see myself playing there but Michigan had a nicer brick facade so that's where I'm going'

I just think it's a wild misuse of resources to worry about what an empty stadium looks like when the entire landscape of recruiting and player compensation are changing and becoming much more expensive.
 
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1UNI2ISU

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You would have to run the numbers, to see if it would be worth the while money wise, but added enhancement are what fans wants today. I would guess it would eliminate about 5K seats at the most, maybe only a couple thousand on each side.
You'd lose more than you think. As soon as you touch anything in the existing bowl, you have to get fully ADA compliant. Wider aisles, hand rails, more equitable ADA seating.

I'll bet you'd lose well over 10k. Now the math may be worth it financially, but you'd have to be absolutely convinced you could get the vast majority of your existing base to pay the price.
 

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Doing so would drop capacity down to the low to mid 50,000s, so no thanks.

I remember touring Lambeau Field a few years back, and the tour guide mentioned that removing the bleacher seating to have individual chairs would drop capacity by about 10,000.
And the seats would suck. The current SEZ seats are comparable to what Arrowhead had until something like 5 to 7 years ago and are fine. Arrowhead replaced them all with cheap paper thin uncomfortable AF seats. Guarantee we'd get something similar if this happened and fans would rightfully be pissed
 

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You'd lose more than you think. As soon as you touch anything in the existing bowl, you have to get fully ADA compliant. Wider aisles, hand rails, more equitable ADA seating.

I'll bet you'd lose well over 10k. Now the math may be worth it financially, but you'd have to be absolutely convinced you could get the vast majority of your existing base to pay the price.
Isn’t it already ADA compliant?
 

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I don't believe it is. Look at the difference in aisle width in the SEZ vs the original bowl plus hand rails.
It’s been a while since I’ve been on the east side but I thought they already had to fix stuff when they did the suites. SEZ and west side seem the same to me but I also haven’t been in the stadium since the George Strait concert.
 

2speedy1

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The solution has nothing to do with painting or not painting the bleachers. We need to rip out the bleachers and install chairback seating throughout. It looks better empty, and it is 1000% better from a fan perspective. I hate sitting on the bleachers for a game. The individual setback rental things are just marginally better.
While I agree. very few college stadiums have those throughout the stadium. Most are in club sections only.
Most are bleachers.

If you put them throughout JTS it would significantly reduce the capacity, as they take up more room.
 

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Okay, so I think I have all my shopping list now, thanks!

When I win the next billion dollar Powerball, I write a check to Jamie for:

A. Bowling in the NEZ. That’s my pet project.

B. Third deck on the east side. Because apparently CPR wants it.

C. New press box.

D. Additional luxury boxes.

E. Entire stadium with fade resistant bucket seats.

…and all that comes out of my pocket, so no investment by the AD, and any ensuing income is pure gravy.

I just want my own luxury box out of it.

Sound fair? That’s my bucket list.

Am I forgetting anything?
An ice cream machine to serve clone cones
 

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You know, all that I had to do was check one. Even one that you suggested.

If you don’t think a recruit walks into a stadium and could think, “Nice, but not as nice as the big boys”…you probably went to UNI.
You are comparing JTS, to the Big House. The largest stadium in the country, and one that has had some of the most expensive upgrades.

All those colored seats at the Big House are fading too.

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aeroclone

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While I agree. very few college stadiums have those throughout the stadium. Most are in club sections only.
Most are bleachers.

If you put them throughout JTS it would significantly reduce the capacity, as they take up more room.
Perhaps you don't do the full stadium. Or possibly you do it at the same time as a north endzone or east side third tier project to maintain capacity. In the era of HD TV, the in stadium experience has to find ways to compete with the living room. For me, one of the biggest drawbacks is being squished into a 10 inch wide section of metal bench for 3+ hours. A little wider space with a true seat would mean more to me than a bigger press box, or upgraded sound and video boards, or LED lights, or beer sales. Sell me some basic human comforts.

A couple examples of stadiums of similar size with large seatback sections on the sidelines, such as Minnesota, Utah, and BYU.

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1SEIACLONE

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You'd lose more than you think. As soon as you touch anything in the existing bowl, you have to get fully ADA compliant. Wider aisles, hand rails, more equitable ADA seating.

I'll bet you'd lose well over 10k. Now the math may be worth it financially, but you'd have to be absolutely convinced you could get the vast majority of your existing base to pay the price.
You would lose 10K if you did the entire stadium, but only doing the east and west sides, say 30 to 30 yard line would not lose anywhere near that number of seats. We seat 5K in the South end zone in seats, I doubt if those seats were metal bleachers we would pick up more than a thousand or two seats.
 

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I wouldn't say anything in Hilton is comfortable. I'm a larger guy and those seats are tiny AF and not comfortable when we're packed in there. I love Hilton, but it ain't comfy.
The Hilton seats were designed for the normal American of 1971. I am a bigger guy, too, and I have been attending games at Hilton since 1971, and it sure seems that the seats keep getting smaller.

Pass the Clone Cone....
 

FallOf81

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Undefeated with so many positives oozing from the team this year... now this BS talk about press box and beautifying the seats. Enjoy the ride and quit complaining.
 
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Perhaps you don't do the full stadium. Or possibly you do it at the same time as a north endzone or east side third tier project to maintain capacity. In the era of HD TV, the in stadium experience has to find ways to compete with the living room. For me, one of the biggest drawbacks is being squished into a 10 inch wide section of metal bench for 3+ hours. A little wider space with a true seat would mean more to me than a bigger press box, or upgraded sound and video boards, or LED lights, or beer sales. Sell me some basic human comforts.

A couple examples of stadiums of similar size with large seatback sections on the sidelines, such as Minnesota, Utah, and BYU.

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I wouldn't hold my breath for seats improving creature comforts. Those seats at the Well in D.M. Just plain uncomfortable. Hilton seats are 10x better then those.
Your section idea could work though, people would probably pay for that if they are actually comfortable.
 
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