Jefferson NOT gone.

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Prediction. We actually kept him from LSU. But then people freaked at his mom on Twitter and he hates us now. So he leaves for some other big dollar offer. And then we get collectively scolded again.
 

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All I'm going to say is Campbell will leave one day. He's not coaching football in Ames, IA forever. He's just not quite as greedy as some apparently. Hes no more loyal tbh. He's just more particular about his exit strategy. That's not a knock on CMC that's just the truth. Does anyone here live where they grew up? Most likely no. So you're a sellout right? Not even close
Nobody knows what he'll do in the future, unless he's actually told you this directly. Yes, most coaches don't stay at one place their entire career. But there are plenty of examples where coaches pretty much did just that.

Bill Snyder and Kirk Ferentz are two obvious examples. And both were rumored continuously to be looking elsewhere, especially early in each coach's tenure. Those two are also guys who MC frequently mentions as mentors, and coaches he looks up to FWIW.

I'm going to enjoy the MC ride for.as long as it lasts. And hopefully it'll be for some time yet.
 

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He has to improve his three point shooting if he wants to get drafted. It’s what keeps Georges Niang in the league. Jefferson does everything else an NBA player does, he just needs to be able to shoot the three better
Sorry, I meant Lipsey. But that probably applies to him too.

Jefferson is interesting maybe? I don’t follow the NBA, but he seems like a guy who could realistically improve his professional prospects next year? So maybe the calculus for leaving ISU would be different than for Lipsey?
 
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I’d choose the 500 dollar bat for my son every time over a hired gun (basketball player). My son will be loyal to me for the rest of my life. I am not delusional in thinking some basketball player of my favorite team will be loyal to my team. The ones that are loyal are some of my favorites of all time. Don’t fault the ones that chase the almighty dollar though. I hope it changes his and his family’s lives.
This so much

Donating to NIL is dumb and makes no sense for the average person to do. There is no return on investment. If your Team wins you get nothing. Invest in yourself or your family. Or donate to charity and do some actual good.

Sorry that's reality. I know many will disagree.
 

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This so much

Donating to NIL is dumb and makes no sense for the average person to do. There is no return on investment. If your Team wins you get nothing. Invest in yourself or your family. Or donate to charity and do some actual good.

Sorry that's reality. I know many will disagree.

The suck string is long too. Donate to buy seats, Buy seats, buy merch, buy food/drinks, buy players…meanwhile the schools are probably splitting 500 million this year.
 

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I can't afford to donate. I work 2 jobs and still barely scraping by. It shouldn't be up to us to have to buy players for our favorite college sports programs.
And that is absolutely fine. Sounds like you are making the right choice for your family. Im not rich by any means but I love isu sports enough that I'm willing to spend some money each month to help us try to stay some form of relevant in the games I look forward to every week. If you absolutely can't afford it than by all means don't do it. My point is if the people who can afford to give 7 dollars a week and don't expect and accept mediocrity going forward. The good news is we can all gather in cytown and watch our NIT games on the new amphitheater.
 

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This is even more reason not to give. You think LSU's donor base is paying for Jefferson and this guy from Omaha? The general public has zero say in this anymore. The corporations and rich donors are obviously running this.

LSU is a poverty program in a poverty state in a, lifeless basketball arena, with a no-name coach, that cant even provide basic necessities for their citizens and yet they can come up with this kind of money for basketball? At a football powerhouse? You guys are being conned.
I'll just throw this here. It's interesting that LSU fired Will Wade for Level 1 and 2 recruiting violations, as stipulated in his contract.
Now they are apparently paying players top-shelf money to come and play "legally".

What a world.
 

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It was my original post that talked about that. The response was then I would choose the $500 bat everytime. I’m fine with that being a priority although I think it just as ridiculous as those that think donating $300 a year to WeWill is. My bigger point today is that you don’t get to complain about the roster situation and what the staff and Blum are doing if you are content to do nothing. If that is your choice then just watch the product and it is what it is.

Then "JUST" watch the product? Wearing a bit of a high hat there aren't you?


Remember when this site began with trying to get Wayne Morgan fired and GMAC hired? Remember the saying from those same people on this site of "would rather lose with dignity than win the Rucker Park way" when is was apparent GMAC wasn't going to be as successful as Wayne? What happened to all that dignity?


All head coaches before TJ were expected to do more with less against certain schools that were doing NIL before there was NIL. ISU has never been on an equal playing field. And that never stopped you or anyone else on this site from complaining ad nauseum about recruits or results. Especially with Prohm. Now it's put up or shut up? I don't remember anyone before NIL saying to people that if you don't buy a ticket or donate to the ADepartment......you can't say a word. Because that's a s***** way to try and create a fanbase, right?


So.....sorry. If all those other coaches were all expected to do more with less..........so is TJ. And so far he is doing a great job. If he slips and has a bad year or two.....so what. Most everyone who is an ISU fan knows what ISU is up against. And it's been like that for years. The fact the "king makers" finally have their guy sitting in the chair doesn't change a thing. What was that saying on this site when harsh criticism reigned down on Prohm every day of every year........."it comes with the job". And I'm sure TJ will do just fine no matter what happens. However, the "high hats" keep telling people sit down and shut up.......well, good luck ISU.
 
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Jefferson is from Las Vegas. He has been in Ames for less than a year. He has no other ties to this university or fan base. Put yourself in the shoes of that 21 year old kid. Damn right you are avoiding the cold winter and taking that money. That is life changing money. Make smart decisions and invest that money well and you are set for life.

Please dont go at the kid or his family on social media.
Yes, agree. None of the present situation in college athletics, NIL vs Pay for Play, is the fault of these kids, or players.
 

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The people on this thread are reporting the team in question is LSU. If you are in the know and it's a quick Google, LSU is a poverty program year over year.
Are they a passionate fanbase, no doubt. But they are an alum base that doesn't have the donor $$ to go crazy in portal. Amazingly even with sec allocation they lose money every year.
Not to mention a garbage Academic institution
I see this a lot about LSU, but they’ve had the top baseball transfer class the last 2-3 years, the top 1 or 2 football transfer class, top women’s basketball transfer class, top 5 in softball and they’re in the top 5 or so for men’s basketball right now. They also have 3 of the highest paid coaches(WBB, FB and baseball)and regularly have some of the top classes in major sports. The money is coming from somewhere to pay the coaches and players.

Based on that alone, I’m starting to think people are just repeating stuff they see online bc what they’re actually doing says something different. Between Todd Graves with Raising Canes and Shaq alone you have tons of money and a lot of highly paid professional athletes that graduated from there.
 

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If I’m TJ and BB ( I know that would be quite a trick) this would be my sales pitch.

TJ, I going to do everything in my power to give you the best opportunity here to maximize your draft status. You will be the centerpiece of our offense.

BB, this is what we can give you but WeWill offer an insurance policy if you’re injured and your draft stock is affected you’ll be set for life.
 
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This so much

Donating to NIL is dumb and makes no sense for the average person to do. There is no return on investment. If your Team wins you get nothing. Invest in yourself or your family. Or donate to charity and do some actual good.

Sorry that's reality. I know many will disagree.

This could be said about spending money on many, many things. Why buy tickets to games when you could watch on TV? Why donate to the athletic department? And to an extreme, why donate to cancer research or that MS walk next weekend because your $100 isn’t going to cure cancer.

With that mindset, nothing is “worth it”. But if you can get 1000s of people to not be so selfish asking “what’s in it for me”, it absolutely has an impact. Just like donating to WeWill does. ISU has too many fans that think like you which is why we are in the bottom 1/3 compared to our peers.
 

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Prediction. We actually kept him from LSU. But then people freaked at his mom on Twitter and he hates us now. So he leaves for some other big dollar offer. And then we get collectively scolded again.
Hope your prediction is wrong but this is why people should not say anything until something is official.
 
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I'll just throw this here. It's interesting that LSU fired Will Wade for Level 1 and 2 recruiting violations, as stipulated in his contract.
Now they are apparently paying players top-shelf money to come and play "legally".

What a world.
Yeah, I remember that. Wasn't it like a week before our tournament game against them?
 

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The suck string is long too. Donate to buy seats, Buy seats, buy merch, buy food/drinks, buy players…meanwhile the schools are probably splitting 500 million this year.
Yep. I am close to giving up season tickets. I hate it but at what point enough is enough.