Hoiberg to Huskers

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  1. randomfan44

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    Who never won the Big 12 or made it past the Sweet Sixteen.

    Hoiberg's ghost ain't MJ's ghost. Prohm will be fine if folks settle down and let him.
     
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  2. cstrunk

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    Saw Tuco's last post and thought, at least he's not replacing Bill Self at KU.
     
  3. Goofyguy1

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    No. But Lard does.
     
  4. Mr Janny

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    Well said. The potential of what Fred could have been is a lot bigger than what he actually accomplished at ISU. That's not to relegate his accomplishments, which were definitely impressive, but not exactly legendary.
     
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  5. NorthCyd

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    Jordan isn't suddenly going to start playing for the Clippers. Not sure the ghost analogy fits if the ghost is going to start coaching next door.
     
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    I think the point is you're competing against an idealized memory, wrapped in 20 layers of warm, fuzzy nostalgia, where people have forgotten the challenges, little failures, and bumps along the road that make up the reality of any career or competition.

    It is hard for LeBron to measure up to Jordan when all we think about is Game 6.

    In some ways, I think that might make things easier on Prohm (e.g., people will stop acting like Fred make deep runs in the NCAA tournament and won Big 12 regular season championships, which he never did or really came very close to), but I can see that Nebraska having a better season than us by one inch will equal absolute calamity for those types and whatever success we have beyond them will easily be dismissed or discounted somehow.
     
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  8. Dandy

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    Best NBA insider out there talking about FH and Nebraska... Once again, is FH trying to use the Nebraska opening to land the Timberwolves gig?

     
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  10. Mr Janny

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    PM me what you want it to be changed to.
     
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    agreed. if youre fred this is a dream job. sort of a sleeping giant. win a few NCAA games and they'll name the arena after him. I'm over it. it hurt when he bolted for Chicago. now, I couldnt care less.
     
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  16. CloneGuy8

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    Agreed, it's just the vocal-minority of Hoiberg fan boys that make it annoying.
     
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    I think he wants EnglishMajorCy.
     
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    Nebraska is where head coaches go to become assistant coaches. Nebraska isn’t and hasn’t ever been a stepping stone job. Name one coach that has left on their own to pursue a better job. Nebraska has never won an NCAA tournament game. Fred can do and deserves better.
     
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  19. AuH2O

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    I don't get the personal animosity, but I also don't get trying to shame people into wishing success either. If Fred is moderately successful at Neb - say make the tourney every couple of years, maybe win a tourney game or two every few years, there's a good chance that has a little impact on ISU. Even then he may be able to bolt to the NBA again, certainly if he's wildly successful.

    My view is that I want ISU bball to win, period. Fred being successful at NU probably has some negative impact on ISU, as would Minnesota or Mizzou. The impact is less than that of another Big12 team, and less than that of Iowa. For that reason I'd prefer he lose there. Nothing personal, but NU sucking is better for ISU.

    As for the "Fred's done more than anyone for ISU" strategy in shaming people that are bitter, I'd say first, Fred got a good power conference job when he was not sniffing a mid-major or probably even low major job. He got the raises when he wanted them, there was no hometown discount. It was a great, mutually beneficial transaction. Fred doesn't owe ISU anything and ISU doesn't owe Fred anything. Both came out really well in that relationship.

    Second, while of course Fred has done more for ISU than some individual fan, but I think that's a dumb argument. If we take the aggregate of the tens of thousands of fans that don't like the prospect of him winning at NU and it's potential impact on ISU, and look at their donations, ticket sales, merchandise purchases, tuition often over decades and multiple generations, I'd say that aggregate of fans that represent ISU in this situation, have done more for ISU than Fred. So if they want to be pissed about it, that's their business. Fred feeling like NU is the best fit for him and his family given other opportunities available (maybe there weren't other great options available?) that's his business.
     
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  20. Sigmapolis

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    I wonder if Doc told anything to Fred good/bad about the Nebby job.
     

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