High School Sports Thread

Are kids allowed to play immediately when they move to a new school, now?

Not sure how it worked, but JJ Kohl played football for Ankeny Centennial in the fall but played basketball for Ankeny Hawks during the winter. I remember going to a miscellaneous Ankeny bball game and thinking to myself, didn't he go to Centennial?


"The 6-foot-7 Kohl started at quarterback for Ankeny Centennial’s football team this fall, then transferred after the season ended."
 
Not sure how it worked, but JJ Kohl played football for Ankeny Centennial in the fall but played basketball for Ankeny Hawks during the winter. I remember going to a miscellaneous Ankeny bball game and thinking to myself, didn't he go to Centennial?


"The 6-foot-7 Kohl started at quarterback for Ankeny Centennial’s football team this fall, then transferred after the season ended."
Technically that's still all within the Ankeny school district, so not sure how that kind of thing works. School districts with multiple HS probably have their own rules that would apply if a kid switched schools without moving into that schools' footprint.

The 90 day sit out period can be waived if the two schools agree. And the ACSD might have conditions that allow a kid to go to Ankeny if in the Centennial footprint and vice versa.
 
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The 90 day wait does apply to private schools.
The 90 day wait does not apply when moving from a public school to a private school. When moving back from a private school to the district you live in it does apply. First hand experience.

The 90 day sitout period can be waived by the district the student is leaving from. The 90 day sitout also doesn't apply for a valid move as mentioned as well.

After COVID the governor changed rules so that kids could leave "non performing" schools without sitting out, this was basically to punish the DSM Public District for defying her on back to in person school. So athletes flooded out to open enroll with no sit out required. Also impacted other big city districts like Waterloo, Sioux City, Council Bluffs, etc.

For anyone who does have to sit out, it doesn't have to be in season, so a football player moves in spring to be eligible for next fall.

Not all schools allow open enrollment. Norwalk for example does not allow open enrollment except in cases of continuing enrollment when a family moves out of district but wants to continue attending. Ankeny Centennial was not allowed to have open enrollment when the district split so that students wouldn't flood to the new school from the old. But Ankeny does have open enrollment, so students can go the other way still.
 
Depends. Did they move their residence there? Dis the whole family move? If either are no, then it’s possible they may not be.
That would be wrong, a child can move between their 8th grade year and high school and be eligible immediately. So they can go out for baseball or softball without ever attending a day of classes in their new school. I have had former students in class that were practicing at their new school, as they finished up at their old school. Once they start their freshman year, without moving, they have to sit 90 days, unless the family moves into the district, then they are immediately eligible.
 
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I know one kid whose parents split during the summer and he was living with dad and the dad registered him at the local school. A week later (before school started) everything was decided that he would live with his mom. So he attended school where the mom lived (the school he was attending before the divorce) and was declared as ineligible since it was an open enrollment even though he never attended.

Another where the kids mom moved in with her bf but couldn’t sell her house so it was rented. Mail and everything was deemed as his residence but since the mom owned the house in the old town, he was considered open enrolled. The superintendent of the old district had no issues and said the kid lived in the new town. State said ownership of the house caused the issue. This happened as a summer change and not mid year. These are just a couple instances I know of.

The state has some goofy ideas.
If it is anything like how Iowa handles residency for things like out of state vs in state tuition, Iowa is known to have one of the more restrictive systems to establish residency.

I have no idea if the process is similar, just that I have family out of state that was very difficult to get in state tuition, until a divorce and one of the parents moved to Iowa and got a job in state.

Kids in order to establish residency on their own its takes longer and more restrictions than many other states. Not saying that is a bad thing or good thing, just that it is the way it is.
 
The 90 day wait does not apply when moving from a public school to a private school. When moving back from a private school to the district you live in it does apply. First hand experience.

The 90 day sitout period can be waived by the district the student is leaving from. The 90 day sitout also doesn't apply for a valid move as mentioned as well.

After COVID the governor changed rules so that kids could leave "non performing" schools without sitting out, this was basically to punish the DSM Public District for defying her on back to in person school. So athletes flooded out to open enroll with no sit out required. Also impacted other big city districts like Waterloo, Sioux City, Council Bluffs, etc.

For anyone who does have to sit out, it doesn't have to be in season, so a football player moves in spring to be eligible for next fall.

Not all schools allow open enrollment. Norwalk for example does not allow open enrollment except in cases of continuing enrollment when a family moves out of district but wants to continue attending. Ankeny Centennial was not allowed to have open enrollment when the district split so that students wouldn't flood to the new school from the old. But Ankeny does have open enrollment, so students can go the other way still.
By law all districts must allow open enrollment, I believe. But there are ways an open enrollment can be denied on a case by case basis. That being said I believe they can have slightly different rules inside a district with multiple schools, and I believe they can put other restrictions in place when a new school opens up and a district splits. In example Waukee when the district split between 2 HS, still same overall district but has 2 high schools.

I also think as you pointed out, the 90 day wait doesnt apply when 1 district does not perform said sport. So if you open enroll to a school that has swimming to be on the swim team, from a school that doesnt have swimming there is no wait for that sport, because they have no option at old school for that sport at least that is how I understand it. So in the case you described, this would be the case, if one school was not having in person class and not performing sports, they could enroll in a new school that was competing.

And yes if the old school agrees to not require the 90 day wait at new school, but from experience make sure you have it in writing, then there is no wait period as well.
 
That would be wrong, a child can move between their 8th grade year and high school and be eligible immediately. So they can go out for baseball or softball without ever attending a day of classes in their new school. I have had former students in class that were practicing at their new school, as they finished up at their old school. Once they start their freshman year, without moving, they have to sit 90 days, unless the family moves into the district, then they are immediately eligible.
Doesn’t always happen that way, state can deny
 
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How can the NCAA not have transfer rules but high school can? I would think a high schooler will take the State to court eventually.
 
Doesn’t always happen that way, state can deny
Not when they move from middle school to high school, it's an open window, that the state has no say about it. Now the school if it is full can refuse the transfer, but other than that, if the school that the student is going to is fine, they can go and are immediately eligible to play that summer. I have had kids that I taught in class in 8th grade, going to practice at another school. Now they could not play for that school until our school year officially ended, but once it had, they started on the varsity softball team for the new school a week later.
 
By law all districts must allow open enrollment, I believe. But there are ways an open enrollment can be denied on a case by case basis. That being said I believe they can have slightly different rules inside a district with multiple schools, and I believe they can put other restrictions in place when a new school opens up and a district splits. In example Waukee when the district split between 2 HS, still same overall district but has 2 high schools.

I also think as you pointed out, the 90 day wait doesnt apply when 1 district does not perform said sport. So if you open enroll to a school that has swimming to be on the swim team, from a school that doesnt have swimming there is no wait for that sport, because they have no option at old school for that sport at least that is how I understand it. So in the case you described, this would be the case, if one school was not having in person class and not performing sports, they could enroll in a new school that was competing.

And yes if the old school agrees to not require the 90 day wait at new school, but from experience make sure you have it in writing, then there is no wait period as well.
There’s a cutoff that if you meet the application date (maybe in Feb) you can open enroll out. A school can’t stop you from open enrolling out if you meet that deadline. If you miss the deadline there has to be a pretty significant justification like a safety concern, bullying not being addressed, etc.

Schools can say they’re full and not take new students.

I don’t know how often the sitout gets waived.
 
The 90 day sitout period can be waived by the district the student is leaving from. The 90 day sitout also doesn't apply for a valid move as mentioned as well.

I’ve seen this a lot but it’s typically kids that can’t get minutes at bigger schools that go down, often encouraged by the coach.

Ankeny Centennial was not allowed to have open enrollment when the district split so that students wouldn't flood to the new school from the old. But Ankeny does have open enrollment, so students can go the other way still.

JMO but we are heading for a real reckoning soon in Ankeny. Participation numbers are way higher on the Centennial side and there are the kids of some pretty prominent Iowa State former players and figures are currently in middle school who are really good at multiple sports. Could get rough here soon.
 
Not when they move from middle school to high school, it's an open window, that the state has no say about it. Now the school if it is full can refuse the transfer, but other than that, if the school that the student is going to is fine, they can go and are immediately eligible to play that summer. I have had kids that I taught in class in 8th grade, going to practice at another school. Now they could not play for that school until our school year officially ended, but once it had, they started on the varsity softball team for the new school a week later.
Ive always mentioned kids in HS already and you’ve said those don’t get stopped. I’ve mentioned a few people already that have been blocked by the state when both schools were ok with the situation.