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Without looking at the stat sheet I thought I saw him drop off a lot of passes on drives, really surprised he didn't pick up any assists on those. I assume a lot of his dishes either got skip passed to another player, or led to a missed shot.
Either way 14 points on shots,2 TOs and 6 rebounds on 15 minutes of play isn't terribly damning. Just pointing out that BDJ gets a lot of heat, but is rarely the problem.
We needed more scoring/less TOs out of Georges, more assists for the whole team, and better help defense to win this game.
I don't thinkGeorges is playing for the NBA this year. Fred did tell him at the end of last year that his biggest question mark from pro scouts would be his body/conditioning. I don't think he's selfish, but other teams have 2 years of film on him.
Bryce is Bryce. We know what we're getting with him. When he plays within himself, he can fill a stat sheet. He just has random possessions when he tries to do to much. He can be lazy on D when he could be our best defender with his skill set.
We do miss Doc.
You can't compare them, no, but you can compare the expectations. This year's team was super hyped from the get go, last year's team was wait and see. We experienced a pleasant 14-0 start, which softened them impact of a slow conference seasons start. This year, we expected they could compete for a reg. season conference crown. Thus, every loss will cause some degree of meltdown. Bad losses (like 3 of the 4) even more so
True, and I think some just don't understand the mindset of some in the fan base who have raised their expectations (and rightly so in my mind) about where our program is and where we want it.
The hype is on US, believe me I was trying to drive that bus, but now it is what is.
Not on this website...also if you disagreed with the Morgan fire and didn't love the McDoormat hire you are toast around here.
In what ways is BDJ a selfish player that doesn't fit in here? He's 13th in the conference in assists per game and he's shooting 52% from the field, so even you think he's shooting a lot, he's making his shots. He also averages fewer TO's per 100 possessions than Niang. So, statistically, you could argue he's one of our LEAST selfish players.
I too thought we could raise expectations, but at some point the team has to get over the proverbial hump. That means winning on the road. KU just lost at okie st, but their road mentality is far ahead of ours.
He's also our number one rebounder. He's gotta be stealing rebounds that would go to his teammates. That's selfish.
If you were driving the bus, I was training for my CDL license and not far behind! But the TT loss knocked me into reality. We have a really nice team and they are fun to watch when hitting on all cylinders. But they also have some glaring weaknesses. C’est la vie.
Also, whats with every team shooting lights out against us from the three. Even if our defense is terrible, how can EVERY SINGLE team literally hit every shot, even if they aren't great shooters. Terrible luck in these games. Or something
Interesting post. I guess I look at Georges and see that he's averaging roughly the same amount of asst/game this year as he did last year (3.5 this year to 3.6 last year) so I don't necessarily think he's playing more me-first. As well, he's averaging nearly 1 rebound per game more than he did last year so I'm not sure he's playing around the perimeter all the time now like you said.
I'm not going to argue the BDJ point with you as I don't disagree however tonight and the game before he seemed to be much better at dishing it off.
I don't know how you can even throw a guy like Charlie Henry under the bus like that as you don't see what happens day in and day out in practice, in the video sessions they do, on the recruiting trail, nor in the huddle on game day.
What exactly were your expectations for this team? Undefeated? They're 17-6. Last year, Uconn a team that won it all was 18-5 at this same time, the rest of the final four was: Kentucky 18-5, florida at 21-2, and wisconsin at 18-5 (and for the record Kentucky, florida, and wisconsin were all ranked lower in the polls where ISU is currently for this season). Outside of Florida, no one else was head and shoulders above where we're at now. I'm not saying that we're going to end up in the final four but if this team gels at the right time and is clicking on all cylinders, there's no reason they can't end up making a big run in the tourney.
Couldn't agree more about the FT shooting. At least two of those losses could have been W's if we shoot a respectable FT percentage.
I don't know about others but I certainly don't think the sky is falling. Just hoping we can snag more than 1 road game this year to finish towards the top of the conference.
But I think most, if not all, of us thought this year's team would be better than last year's team. Everyone certainly hoped to finish better than 4th in the league this year. So I'm not one for comparing this year's team to last year's team to show they can't win on the road.
This. I don't get the BDJ hate at all. He is 2nd in scoring, 1st in rebounding, 3rd in assists, and shoots 78% from the FT line. Compare him to Niang:
Georges - 14.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.5 apg, 0.4 steals, 0.4 blocks, 2.6 turnovers/gm, 46% FG, 77.5% FT
BDJ - 12.6 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.3 steals, 0.5 blocks, 1.9 turnovers, 51% FG, 77.8% FT
If people want to criticize someone, maybe it should be Niang?
