Help with a slow Computer

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Im not good with tech.

I’m having trouble with my laptop. Believe it has Windows 10. I am able to start it up, log in, and get to the desktop. Once I’m at the desktop, when I move my mouse over the start button the arrow just spins but I can’t open it. Icons on the toolbar don’t load.
If I ctr-alt-del the task manager will come up and I can work through that. There are 88 background apps running but I can’t get them to close.

Any ideas on how to get this thing going again? Thanks!
 
I would buy a new computer. 88 background apps? There is the problem. If you have an external battery, pull that, otherwise I would let your computer run dead to see if you can break that crap that way. Sounds like some sort of a virus or malware.
 
Not enough information to really tell what's going on (from my relatively untechnical perspective).

What % is your CPU and Memory usage at in the task manager? You should be able to sort by each and determine what processes are eating resources. What's eating CPU and Memory?
 
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Yeah lot of variables here. If your CPU and Memory usage is high could have some malfunctioning software that runs on start up or some kind of virus/malware causing it that needs to be uninstalled or disabled. Can try to boot it to safe mode using F8 before it starts to load windows and see if it lets you doing anything as that will run Windows with just the necessary services running.

How old is the machine, does it have a solid state hard drive? Just too many things to look for to give you a simple answer. If you can get it to a state where you can click and run things would not hurt to download and run Malwarebytes on it. Some of the malware these days can be nasty and bury itself to where it runs on startup and pegs the crap out of your resources.
 
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To be 100% clear, you are talking about having 88 background "Apps" running, and not "Background processes" or "Windows processes" which you can see by scrolling further down the Task Manager window? Because 88 is a lot for apps, but not necessarily a lot for processes.
 
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Can you do anything like move files? If I had your situation I would
1) Backup all personal files
2) Find what software I had installed and collect all information about the registrations and passwords
3) Then I would reset the computer. There are instructiopns here:

If you can't get any of that to work, you CAN get your operating system discs and start from scratch. There are a LOT of instructions on-line for that.
 
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I am going to piggy back on this thread.

I bought a new HP laptop in January 2021. A couple weeks ago it wouldn't wake up and come off black screen. I found a fix to reset the Bios (Windows key + B + power) that fixed it until today when it is doing it again. I tried the fix but nothing.

I'll also add that when I turn off the power and turn it on, the fan is running like it normally does.

Who would you recommend to have fix it in the Des Moines or Ames area? The problem is I can be without the laptop for more than a couple days and it seems like most places want it for 1-2 weeks.
 
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I am going to piggy back on this thread.

I bought a new HP laptop in January 2021. A couple weeks ago it wouldn't wake up and come off black screen. I found a fix to reset the Bios (Windows key + B + power) that fixed it until today when it is doing it again. I tried the fix but nothing.

I'll also add that when I turn off the power and turn it on, the fan is running like it normally does.

Who would you recommend to have fix it in the Des Moines or Ames area? The problem is I can be without the laptop for more than a couple days and it seems like most places want it for 1-2 weeks.
If you're using it for a business I would recommend getting a backup plan. 1-2 days is not reasonable unless you're doing it yourself.
 
If you're using it for a business I would recommend getting a backup plan. 1-2 days is not reasonable unless you're doing it yourself.
yes using it for business.

If 1-2 days to diagnose a problem isn't reasonable I will just buy a new one then. It shouldn't take 2 weeks to hook up a diagnostics tool to determine the problem.
 
Problems with Windows =
1. From a command prompt run "sfc /scannow"
2. Also from a cmd "DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /Scan Health"
2a. If it finds issues run "DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /Restore Health"
 
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Someone gave this a thumbs down but that is a legit comment that I would agree with. Had a roommate once that was complaining about his less than 1 year old PC being "junk and too slow." I took a look at it and there was all kinds of malware installed that I had to remove and after it was all gone it ran just fine. Pretty sure it got there by some of the sites he probably visited. Don't think some people realize it but some of those sites just by visiting them can get all kinds of unwanted crap installed on your machine without you even realizing it and just hog resources as that malware is essentially doing data mining on you.

Had an awkward situation at work years ago where I was backing up some stuff before reimaging a device and noticed a folder of favorites that contained a bunch of adult websites. I don't think they were intentionally saved there by the person but obviously knew that they had to visited some kind of site for those to have gotten put on the machine. Had to report it to my manager as that kind of stuff is against company policy. Had another coworker that actually found adult videos saved on someone's laptop while doing support work and had to report it. It was a higher up manager nearing retirement so my coworker was worried he might get retaliation for reporting it but the person that had the files on his company laptop wound up getting fired over it after it went through the HR reporting. Bottom line, don't do stupid stuff on a company device and treat it like it is your personal device which includes saving personal data or files to it. It's a company asset and most companies can terminate you for cause for misuse of company. I am always amazed when I come across people that freak out that they lost personal files and photos they had on a company device and get upset that we can't recover them when a hard drive fails or becomes corrupted. They shouldn't be there in the first place.
 
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yes using it for business.

If 1-2 days to diagnose a problem isn't reasonable I will just buy a new one then. It shouldn't take 2 weeks to hook up a diagnostics tool to determine the problem.
I meant fix, not diagnose. Yeah, 2 weeks to diagnose is not acceptable.
 
I meant fix, not diagnose. Yeah, 2 weeks to diagnose is not acceptable.

Yeah I just want it diagnosed. Then I'll determine if it is worth fixing or not. $ isn't a concern it's the downtime of getting it fixed that is the determining factor.
 
Yeah I just want it diagnosed. Then I'll determine if it is worth fixing or not. $ isn't a concern it's the downtime of getting it fixed that is the determining factor.
Do you have any external devices connected to it? Sometimes those will keep PCs from waking up if there's a problem with them. Unhook everything and restart in safe mode (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-windows-92c27cff-db89-8644-1ce4-b3e5e56fe234)

If that helps, could be just need to install updated drivers.
 
Do you have any external devices connected to it? Sometimes those will keep PCs from waking up if there's a problem with them. Unhook everything and restart in safe mode (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-windows-92c27cff-db89-8644-1ce4-b3e5e56fe234)

If that helps, could be just need to install updated drivers.

nothing connected.

I tried the directions in your link for doing it from black screen and nothing happens. I have an appointment at 3 in Ames to get it looked at.
 
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So, I designed and built around 100 task specific, touch-screen, 8U computers between 2005 and 2011. I, along with one partner, supported these machines that landed throughout the country with people that didn't know much about computers, that typically needed them to perform in front of audiences on a regular basis. We often got calls from the "site" and they were totally frantic and could barely string words together, let alone give good descriptions and take good direction. So, here are the things I learned from that and all other assistance I have ever provided anyone with computers. (I'm sure some will disagree with me, but here goes.)

1) Don't waste any time trying to track down a one time issue unless it is something that is forensic / going to cause an issue on a network of computers. The example above rarely came to that, except in a few cases. Trying to figure out why the computer isn't running correctly, except maybe for a recently installed driver or something, almost always takes longer than reinstalling the OS. Especially now with Windows 10 reset.

2) Keep your data in a secure location off your computer or in a back-up somewhere so you can completely wipe your computer with ease. Keep a private / secure document somewhere with all the links to the software you use and your username and passwords for those sites. And finally, keep some form of the hard copy of the operating system disks you got (if you did) in a safe location as well. You may never need them, but if you start completely from scratch, they can save your behind and probably $100 in the process.

3) Learn about / invest in a system that backs up your data in a separate location away from where you usually store your computer. This saves you from catastrophic data loss from fire and flood and sometimes from larger natural disasters. If you store it on hard drives and it is really critical, keep 2 drives updated at all times or use RAID 1 (see #4).

4) If your information is really vital at all times and all revisions, then learn about raid 1 systems and use them. If you want it to be backed up really well, think about a Raid 1 NAS.

DON'T THINK THAT BACKING UP AND UTILIZING RAID ARE THE SAME THING, THEY AREN'T. One is meant to protect you from nature/theft/vandalism, etc., the other one will protect you from mean time failure. To be completely safe you should back up and RAID at the same time.

The way I protected my clients was to use a RAID 1 data drive and 2 separate cloned system drives in the same computer. I also made sure that any program data was stored in the Data drives. If everything went to pot, I had all the software and system set up so we could simply swap the ATA (and later SATA) drive cables and turn the system back on and roll.

Then they would send it back in, I'd reinstall Windows and their software (which I had completely documented for them when I sent it out), clone the system drive and send it back to them. It worked for many years. These are task specific and I told my clients NOT to put them on the Internet, some have listened, others haven't, but those that have, have computers that lasted a long time. I am pretty sure I have one unit out there that I built in 2005 and still has the first version of XP I put on it, I would bet it has never been updated. If they want to use any of the nicer newer software, it would NEVER work. ha!

There's my $.02. Good luck with your situation. You know my opinion. Reset it.
 
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I would buy a new computer. 88 background apps? There is the problem. If you have an external battery, pull that, otherwise I would let your computer run dead to see if you can break that crap that way. Sounds like some sort of a virus or malware.
Thanks for all the replies. I took the battery out for 5 mins or so, plugged it back in and it’s a whole new machine. Will keep everyone posted if it’s back to it’s old ways tomorrow.
 
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Thanks for all the replies. I took the battery out for 5 mins or so, plugged it back in and it’s a whole new machine. Will keep everyone posted if it’s back to it’s old ways tomorrow.

Not sure where you are located but the guy in Ames that I took mine to yesterday was great. I dropped it off at 3:30 PM and he called me at 7:00 PM to tell me it was fixed. Turned about I had a bad stick of ram.
 

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