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Fixing NFL OT

Cyhig said:
And 3 on 3 in the NHL is actually quite fun to watch. Not suggesting the NFL to go 7 on 7, but the point is you can find ways to make OT more exciting for fans while declaring a winner to the game without having the OT drag on.

But depending on the OT rules, OT games in playoffs may need to be more closely resembled to regular time. Again, the NHL plays 5 on 5 in OT for playoff games until someone scores. It works for them. I think the NFL can come up with ways to make OT more enticing for fans in the regular season while using a more traditional method for playoff OTs
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I did a cursory look up of the amount of times games go to overtime/extra innings in the big 4 NA sports.

NFL - 7%
NBA - 6%
MLB - 9%
NHL - 21%

NHL has to absolutely ensure that they make their OT the most compelling as it's the only one of the 4 sports where it is impossible to score more than a single point on a scoring play. It's also the reason they go to overtime more than the other sports.

But back to the NFL, that 7% amounts to about 20 games a year of which only about one ends up in the tie. All this teeth-gnashing over one game seems silly. I agree they should move it back to 15 min OT since both teams are guaranteed a possession now, however.

Honestly, it's that most kickers have gotten too good at what they do. Maybe it's time to narrow the goalposts to greater incentivize touchdowns.
 
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houjix said:
I did a cursory look up of the amount of times games go to overtime/extra innings in the big 4 NA sports.

NFL - 7%
NBA - 6%
MLB - 9%
NHL - 21%

NHL has to absolutely ensure that they make their OT the most compelling as it's the only one of the 4 sports where it is impossible to score more than a single point on a scoring play. It's also the reason they go to overtime more than the other sports.

But back to the NFL, that 7% amounts to about 20 games a year of which only about one ends up in the tie. All this teeth-gnashing over one game seems silly. I agree they should move it back to 15 min OT since both teams are guaranteed a possession now, however.

Honestly, it's that most kickers have gotten too good at what they do. Maybe it's time to narrow the goalposts to greater incentivize touchdowns.
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Or widen the hashes to the college width. The situation now is like having the NBA 3 point line be closer than in college.
 
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Gonzo said:
I've never understood this take. How is it a different sport than the rest of the game? Team A gets the ball at the 25 and... go. There are still first downs, the same penalties, the same play clock, the same points awarded for FGs, the same points for TDs and extra points. If giving both teams the ball at the 25 with an equal shot at driving and scoring points to win the game makes it a different sport, I just don't get that side of it.
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The issue is driving 25 yards for TD favors the better offense vs. better defense.

Also feel bend-don't-break defense becomes a negative in OT vs. same caliber defense that is aggressive.

Prefer if college would move start to teams own 40-50 yard line. Make a team get a 1st down or two before a FG is an option.
 
isucy86 said:
The issue is driving 25 yards for TD favors the better offense vs. better defense.

Also feel bend-don't-break defense becomes a negative in OT vs. same caliber defense that is aggressive.

Prefer if college would move start to teams own 40-50 yard line. Make a team get a 1st down or two before a FG is an option.
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Yeah I don't entirely disagree. I just hated the old NFL OT system where the outcome was based largely on a coin toss.
 
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Ties suck but the college model wouldn't work at the NFL level. For gambling and fantasy purposes it wouldn't be fair to have all the extra TDs that would happen in a 3 or 4 OT situation.
 
HFCS said:
I loved it too, but I think the current way is best to appease the people who got mad it sometimes took forever.

To me bring it on if it takes forever.
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It didn’t help when each team got a timeout in each OT period. That drug the OTs out way too long. They should have just gotten rid of the excess time outs, and not gone to the swapping two-point tries.

Running your offense from the 25 on in is a lot closer to ”just play football as is” than whatever this display of back-and-forth one-play two-point tries is supposed to be.
 
Why not just do what they do with OT in the playoffs, whatever that is?

Too long of a game?
 
madguy30 said:
Why not just do what they do with OT in the playoffs, whatever that is?

Too long of a game?
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The rules are the same as playoff OT now, only with a single 10-minute period. And they recently changed the playoff OT rules to allow both teams a possession regardless of if the first team scores a TD,
 
houjix said:
The rules are the same as playoff OT now, only with a single 10-minute period. And they recently changed the playoff OT rules to allow both teams a possession regardless of if the first team scores a TD,
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But if the score is tied at the end of OT in the playoffs, they just have another period, correct?
 
Cyhig said:
Not suggesting the NFL to go 7 on 7,
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I dunno, the idea has merit if you ask me. Offense fields any 7 they want and the defense responds with their own 7. Put the ball on the 25 with no field goals allowed. Keep alternating possessions until somebody wins.

Sounds like fun! The DCs and OCs would hate it tho.
 
HFCS said:
I became big soccer fan when I studied abroad and living in the middle of it…regular season ties are no big deal. I’m old enough to remember when cfb had ties and it was no big deal. I prefer college OT but if people wanted ties I wouldn’t really care.

The thing about ties I’d hate in current era is you know CFP would treat any ND tie like a win and any Big 12 tie like a loss.
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1966 has entered the conversation!

 
They won't ever extend OT to ensure a winner because it messes with TV and advertising.
 
Bader said:
NFL OT can be sudden death if we knock off the coin flip nonsense and they decide who gets possession by doing whatever you call the "players both start on the their backs with the ball between them, race to get the ball and get out the opponents end of the 10yd box first" drill
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Wait isn't so unfair when one team gets more possession than another team during regular game play. Shouldn't we just do football where say each team get 8 possessions no clock and high scores wins after 8 possessions each otherwise regulation time is unfair.
 
CivEFootball said:
Wait isn't so unfair when one team gets more possession than another team during regular game play. Shouldn't we just do football where say each team get 8 possessions no clock and high scores wins after 8 possessions each otherwise regulation time is unfair.
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That's what I said. Play X pairs of possessions, and if they're tied at the end just keep adding pairs of possessions until at the end somebody is ahead. Schedule a short break every 2 pairs of possessions ("quarters" and "halftime"). Keep the play clock though - I think baseball proved that having a clock to keep play moving is necessary. You can still use "timeouts" to reset the playclock.
 
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