Fan Boundaries with Student Athletes

Am I missing something here? An adult walks into a bar and sees another adult and engages in a several minute conversation and people think it is "creepy"?

As someone mentioned previously, read the situation. If they don't seem into the conversation and are trying to kill it, take the hint and walk away. If you go to a bar, there is a chance you are going to get engaged by a stranger. If you also happen to be a famous person, athlete, etc. the odds that you are going to get engaged by a stranger increase exponentially. As long as people are respectful and don't overstay their welcome, who cares?
 
Am I missing something here? An adult walks into a bar and sees another adult and engages in a several minute conversation and people think it is "creepy"?

As someone mentioned previously, read the situation. If they don't seem into the conversation and are trying to kill it, take the hint and walk away. If you go to a bar, there is a chance you are going to get engaged by a stranger. If you also happen to be a famous person, athlete, etc. the odds that you are going to get engaged by a stranger increase exponentially. As long as people are respectful and don't overstay their welcome, who cares?
People will talk about and comment on very personal things on social media and it is generally accepted as normal behavior but so much as make eye contact in a public setting where real people are around and you're a creeper who's invading their space. Strange times for society. It's no wonder our children's social skills are eroding so quickly.
 
When I lived in KC we saw Marty & his wife in a movie theater with some buddies. My one buddy who played Oklahoma HS FB always screamed at the tv that Marty’s ‘prevent the win D’ only prevented KC from winning.

Dave! Dave! It’s Marty Schottenheimer!!! This is your big chance to tell him!!! Go up and tell him how the ‘prevent the win’ only keeps us from winning!

Watching him slump down in his chair was so much fun.

‘This is your big chance to tell him what an idiot he is! He probably has no idea!’
 
Isn't this totally situation dependent? Just don't be a weirdo creep but if you strike up a conversation at a bar and the person is engaged in it then it can continue. If you approach them and they obviously don't want to talk after you say a few words then move on
 
Isn't this totally situation dependent? Just don't be a weirdo creep but if you strike up a conversation at a bar and the person is engaged in it then it can continue. If you approach them and they obviously don't want to talk after you say a few words then move on
Apparently picking up on social cues in a situation like this is a lost art so we just automatically assume the worst intentions if someone tries to have casual conversations in a public setting.
 
It also depends on the context of the conversation. Maybe the person knows the athlete's parents? Maybe the person grew up near the athlete's hometown. Just because a guy has a conversation with a female doesn't automatically make him a creep.
 
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Everything has to be such a freaking ordeal now. Just treat each other with courtesy and most of these problems go away.

Seems easy, but "courtesy" means different things to different people.

I think of being on a plane. Momma KnappShack would find it rude if she DIDN'T talk to everyone. I find it rude if you don't leave me alone.
 
Seems easy, but "courtesy" means different things to different people.

I think of being on a plane. Momma KnappShack would find it rude if she DIDN'T talk to everyone. I find it rude if you don't leave me alone.
Yes well if the worst thing we deal with on a daily basis is someone that's slightly annoying but friendly taking a few mundane moments of our life then I think we're doing ok.

If I don't want to talk them I'll just tell them nice to meet you but I've got some things that need my attention.
 
When I was first married, we lived in a western suburb of Chicago named Elmhurst and many Chicago Blackhawk players lived there as well. We would often see a young Jeremy Roenick and his defenseman roommate at a Greek breakfast restaurant named the Rainbow, which did brisk business. I never saw anyone approach Roenick, which is probably why he frequented the place - he could eat without being bothered.

Several months ago, a retirement age male board member related a story where he entered a small Ames bar to meet friends, saw a high profile female basketball player sitting alone at a table and approached her, "conversing for several minutes". He said she sat alone the entire time she was there, which he thought was "weird". The player was one of our first "unexpected" transfer portal losses.

I'm firmly in the camp that formal boundaries should be in place between fans and student athletes, especially female student athletes. An adult male wouldn't walk into a small towny bar, see an anonymous twenty year-old girl sitting alone at a table, walk up and engage her in conversation. I feel strongly the same should hold true for an ISU WBB player - she was sitting alone by choice - leave her alone. I said as much in the thread and was surprised by the number of people who felt otherwise.

It's a slow time of the ISU athletic year and I'm always interested in the opinions of others. I'm not talking about college-aged or young adults, rather mature adults ages 40 & over. Would you approach a female athlete sitting alone in a bar minding their own business? When is it permissible to approach a female student athlete in public? When is it permissible to approach any ISU student athlete in public?
Why is a div 1 athlete sitting in a bar by themselves? I find that more strange than some old guy fan saying hello. I dont see anything wrong with saying "hey, great job last night against Baylor" . As you pass by. Probably don't want to push for a conversation though.
 
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Why is a div 1 athlete sitting in a bar by themselves? I find that more strange than some old guy fan saying hello. I dont see anything wrong with saying "hey, great job last night against Baylor" . As you pass by. Probably don't want to push for a conversation though.
Not everyone is a social butterfly.
 
I personally don’t think a handshake or asking for a picture is too much. It’s when people start noticing and a crowd gathers around me with wives trying to give me their number in front of their husbands that makes it akward
 
Everything has to be such a freaking ordeal now. Just treat each other with courtesy and most of these problems go away.
This. Also, people are different. Some might not like the interaction. Others might welcome it. There are no hard and fast rules. Interaction with other humans is the price of living in a society, whether you're an athlete or not. And not all of those interactions are going to be your favorite. The best advice in all of them is "Don't be a ****".
 
I'm by nature fairly shy and quiet, however, I tend to look around and notice much more than if I was always talking. There are two times this post reminded me about:

1. I once stopped by where Craig Brackins was sitting and eating with a friend at a WBB game (the chairs/table next to the camera location on the concourse.) They/MBB had won their game a day or two before, and I'd noticed he looked like he was having fun during that day. Back during the McD era, there wasn't a lot of smiling as I recall and I wanted CB to know that it was fun to watch. He was slightly surprised, and very gracious.

2. In the original Wallaby's location, we were eating -- after a WBB game, I think -- and I saw Lyndsey Medders walk in kind of hesitantly and sit in a booth. A short time later, Billy Fennelly walked in, looked around, went to the same table and sat opposite Lyndsey. I remember saying to DH, it looks like they're going out but don't want anyone to know, which is kind of silly of them doing this in such a public place.
 

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