Driving rant: PLEASE stop this!!

Ive had it with semi drivers in the passing lane on the interstate. Especially I-80. JFC you dont own the roads you inconsiderate pricks! Slow poke laws need to be a thing also.
I cut those guys a little break because the trucks are often electronically limited to between 65 and 70mph. They'd go faster if they could. The other issue is Iowa's rolling hills don't allow them to maintain speed differences long enough to actually pass quickly.
 
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I’d say it that situation when stop signs are only N/S the vehicle going straight has the right of way unless the vehicle turning left enters the intersection prior to the other vehicle reaching a full stop. The only exception would be if cross traffic was clearing within a few seconds on the second vehicle of the second vehicle stopping. If it’s an extended stop going straight has the right of way.
Yeah, I think the "car that got there first" rule only applies to 4 way stops. Otherwise left turning yields to straight traffic. You wouldn't let a car that stopped opposite of you at a stop LIGHT turn left in front of you just because he got there first.

But I've been in that situation many times and it's like he said. Nobody really knows for sure, so it's basically a game of chicken at that point.
 
My wife and I have been having this traffic debate for years. It's about the right-of-way protocol at a stop sign...

- Two cars are traveling in opposite directions, one north one south, approaching their respective stop signs at the intersection with a busier street.
- The car traveling south intends to continue heading south after passing through the intersection, the car traveling north intends to turn left at the intersection.
- The car traveling north, which intends to turn left, reaches its stop sign 5 seconds before the car traveling south reaches its stop sign.
- There's a steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street, which does not have a stop sign at the intersection, prior to both of the north/south cars reaching their stop sign.
- The steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street continues for 20 seconds after both of the north/south cars reach their stop signs.
- Traffic on the busier east/west street clears, and the north/south cars can now make their move.
- Again, the car traveling north that intends to turn left got to its stop sign first, before the car traveling south that intends to go straight, but they both sat there at the stop for 20 seconds.

Which car has the right of way?

One of us believes the car traveling north turning left at the intersection has the right of way, because it got to its stop sign first and has the right to make its left turn before the other car crosses.

One of us believes the car traveling south heading straight through the intersection has the right of way, because they both sat there for an extended period of time, making who got there first a moot point.

What say you?

Edited; I think still 'first is first' applies but heck if you had a collision you could at least refer to the language on page 19 here.

Interesting.

 
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Ive had it with semi drivers in the passing lane on the interstate. Especially I-80. JFC you dont own the roads you inconsiderate pricks! Slow poke laws need to be a thing also.
The damn companies need to give the drivers autonomy when it comes to pass. The trucks are governed to block the damn road, Write some code to give them 2 minutes of unlimited throttle before returning to mandated settings.

If you want to watch a semi go fast, get out west behind a cattle semi on a hot day. Those boys got the hammer down with no throttle restrictions.

@besserheimerphat is my 1st paragraph actually possible with today's truck technology or just wishful thinking on my part? I know Indy car has push to pass with X number of uses per race.
 
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My wife and I have been having this traffic debate for years. It's about the right-of-way protocol at a stop sign...

- Two cars are traveling in opposite directions, one north one south, approaching their respective stop signs at the intersection with a busier street.
- The car traveling south intends to continue heading south after passing through the intersection, the car traveling north intends to turn left at the intersection.
- The car traveling north, which intends to turn left, reaches its stop sign 5 seconds before the car traveling south reaches its stop sign.
- There's a steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street, which does not have a stop sign at the intersection, prior to both of the north/south cars reaching their stop sign.
- The steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street continues for 20 seconds after both of the north/south cars reach their stop signs.
- Traffic on the busier east/west street clears, and the north/south cars can now make their move.
- Again, the car traveling north that intends to turn left got to its stop sign first, before the car traveling south that intends to go straight, but they both sat there at the stop for 20 seconds.

Which car has the right of way?

One of us believes the car traveling north turning left at the intersection has the right of way, because it got to its stop sign first and has the right to make its left turn before the other car crosses.

One of us believes the car traveling south heading straight through the intersection has the right of way, because they both sat there for an extended period of time, making who got there first a moot point.

What say you?
I vote left turner but don't know the legal answer.
 
My wife and I have been having this traffic debate for years. It's about the right-of-way protocol at a stop sign...

- Two cars are traveling in opposite directions, one north one south, approaching their respective stop signs at the intersection with a busier street.
- The car traveling south intends to continue heading south after passing through the intersection, the car traveling north intends to turn left at the intersection.
- The car traveling north, which intends to turn left, reaches its stop sign 5 seconds before the car traveling south reaches its stop sign.
- There's a steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street, which does not have a stop sign at the intersection, prior to both of the north/south cars reaching their stop sign.
- The steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street continues for 20 seconds after both of the north/south cars reach their stop signs.
- Traffic on the busier east/west street clears, and the north/south cars can now make their move.
- Again, the car traveling north that intends to turn left got to its stop sign first, before the car traveling south that intends to go straight, but they both sat there at the stop for 20 seconds.

Which car has the right of way?

One of us believes the car traveling north turning left at the intersection has the right of way, because it got to its stop sign first and has the right to make its left turn before the other car crosses.

One of us believes the car traveling south heading straight through the intersection has the right of way, because they both sat there for an extended period of time, making who got there first a moot point.

What say you?

According to Iowa DOT, the car going straight has the right of way in that situation. “Arriving first” only applies to All Way stops.
 
Not to mention, they think oncoming traffic is supposed to yield to them.
No driver(s) on the main road has to yield. If there is no other traffic, yes the main road travelers may yield, but causing several vehicles to slow or move over is not nice or smart. I swear there are many who simply drive onto the main road and expect room to be made for their vehicle. Defensive driving skills are not the norm.
 
While we’re talking about driving gripes, the speed limit was changed to 60. Stop driving 55 miles per hour on county highways
 
I cut those guys a little break because the trucks are often electronically limited to between 65 and 70mph. They'd go faster if they could. The other issue is Iowa's rolling hills don't allow them to maintain speed differences long enough to actually pass quickly.
I get why some can’t go faster but they are constantly whipping out in front of you and making you slam your brakes on or hit them like they own the road.

There are sooo many semi’s on 80 that it really needs to be expanded to 3 lanes with semi’s restricted to the right 2 lanes.
 
That car saved my life. And the passenger. A few bruises on my shins/ankles and one nice scrape (still got a tiny bit of the scab left after almost a month). Buddy in the passenger seat was the same, but also some bruising from the seat belt. I think I didn't because I braced my self against the steering wheel.

Now if ******* ******** incompetent State Farm could actually do their job, or ever TRY to do their job.... Been with them for 40 years and always had great service. They've restructured how they do things. The actual agent knows nothing and can do nothing. It's a complete pig cluster ****.
Don't accept their initial ACV for the car. Invoke the appraisal clause and get an independent appraisal. We ended up getting >4,000 more by doing this. And will soon no longer be state farm customers
 
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I cut those guys a little break because the trucks are often electronically limited to between 65 and 70mph. They'd go faster if they could. The other issue is Iowa's rolling hills don't allow them to maintain speed differences long enough to actually pass quickly.
This. I agree it can be frustrating but they have a pretty thankless job.
What really pisses me off are the passenger vehicles that take 5 miles to make a pass. just speed up for 10 seconds to get around and go back to your cruisning speed.
 
This happened to me twice today, so I have to rant...

When you are in a left turn lane, and you want to make a u-turn, you cannot "swing wide" into the adjacent traffic lane on your right to make your u-turn, especially on busy road!

In the first incident this morning, the driver pulled 1/4 into my lane while making the u-turn. It was unbelievable. Thankfully nobody was right beside me and I was able to slow down and swerve into the next right lane to avoid her. The driver coming up on my right was able to slow down to let me over. The incident tonight wasn't quite as bad.

You aren't a semi tractor pulling a 53-foot trailer. If you can't make the u-turn without pulling into the oncoming traffic on your right, then don't make the u-turn. Find another option.

I see this happening more and more. Is this maneuver being taught in driving school now or something???
One of my only memories of taking Driver's Ed back in the 90s was someone doing this in front of us (just for a left turn, not a U-turn!), and the instructor telling me, "don't ever do that." I think he called it a granny turn lol. Really stuck with me for some reason.
 
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One of my only memories of taking Driver's Ed back in the 90s was someone doing this in front of us (just for a left turn, not a U-turn!), and the instructor telling me, "don't ever do that." I think he called it a granny turn lol. Really stuck with me for some reason.
The drivers ed quote I always remember is "A vehicle is not a time machine and never use it for that purpose." If I am getting into a car and I am late, it is my fault, don't try to make it up in the car. Yes, I have broken that rule, but still a good one that I will always remember.
 
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The drivers ed quote I always remember is "A vehicle is not a time machine and never use it for that purpose." If I am getting into a car and I am late, it is my fault, don't try to make it up in the car. Yes, I have broken that rule, but still a good one that I will always remember.

Mine wasn’t from drivers ed. It was from a math teacher that did a lesson to juniors to have them calculate the time saved by driving 20 mph over the speed limit on a 10 minute drive around town. Then they used the answer of just a couple of seconds to hammer home that speeding doesn’t make much of a difference in how quickly you get there.