Kielsmeier is one of the nicest guys in the world. IF Bill retired in the next few years, he is the only call you make.
Couldn't agree more, I knew him when he was going to Iowa State. Fun fact: Chris was on the cheer squad when he was a student.
Kielsmeier is one of the nicest guys in the world. IF Bill retired in the next few years, he is the only call you make.
Jadda Buckley, Adriana Camber, Rae Johnson, Kristin Scott - short list of recent players off the top of my head who left ISU with eligibility remaining and didn’t desire to play again. I don’t need a recap of Buckley’s injury issues! Just adding another layer of circumstantial evidence that playing for this ISU staff may take the fun from the game!It's not as troubling as Feuerbach, Donarski or Fritz leaving, but they still have remaining eligibility and are choosing to play elsewhere. Definitely more tolerable, but when taking within the context of what's going on I'd consider it somewhat troubling.
Or maybe she doesn't like doing interviews? A lot of explanations for that lolWhen they talked to her about going home to Tenn she could not have looked more far away and get me out of this interview because Im not going to be here much longer anyway. I knew from that moment it was a matter time before we heard she is out. Lexi total surprise-
This is the most obvious answer. I don't know why people are trying to find other reasons.People also transfer because the coach is a d!ck.
Coaches that win at every level tend to have success when they move to the highest level. I'd certainly start with "proven success at many levels" if talking to a search firm about potentials coaches.Cleveland State coach?
Graduated from Hubbard-Radcliffe and Iowa State, interned for Fennelly in late 90's. Has been a winner at the D3, D2, and D1 level.
▪︎ Howard Payne (2000-08): 179-44 (won D-III national championship in 2008)
▪︎ Wayne State College (2008-18): 237-72
▪︎ Cleveland State (2018-pres.): 98-54
Jadda Buckley, Adriana Camber, Rae Johnson, Kristin Scott - short list of recent players off the top of my head who left ISU with eligibility remaining and didn’t desire to play again. I don’t need a recap of Buckley’s injury issues! Just adding another layer of circumstantial evidence that playing for this ISU staff may take the fun from the game!
I sincerely hope Pollard is making inquiries - absolute power corrupts and the Fennelly clan has much support and leverage.
I did a little project during a boring townhall call this morning. Here is the average number of off-season player departures for each women's basketball program in the Big 12 between 2014 and 2022. 2023 player departures are not included in these numbers.
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I came up with the numbers per off-season by comparing each season's roster on Wikipedia. I only counted players FR, SO, or JR that did not appear on the next season's roster to try and eliminate graduating players. And I didn't try to determine reasons for a player not appearing on the next season's roster.
I went back that far to try and minimize the one year effect of a coaching change. Here is the 2018-2022 for comparison.I may be wrong but I think we are the only team on that list to not have a coaching change.
I'd also probably narrow that window down as transferring was much less common until about 5 years ago.
Texas Tech replaces a whole lineup almost every year.I went back that far to try and minimize the one year effect of a coaching change. Here is the 2018-2022 for comparison.
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I did a little project during a boring townhall call this morning. Here is the average number of off-season player departures for each women's basketball program in the Big 12 between 2014 and 2022. 2023 player departures are not included in these numbers.
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I came up with the numbers per off-season by comparing each season's roster on Wikipedia. I only counted players FR, SO, or JR that did not appear on the next season's roster to try and eliminate graduating players. And I didn't try to determine reasons for a player not appearing on the next season's roster.
Last coaching change per school:I may be wrong but I think we are the only team on that list to not have a coaching change.
I'd also probably narrow that window down as transferring was much less common until about 5 years ago.
Texas Tech's numbers get skewed with 3 coaching changes and several poor seasons the last decade.Texas Tech replaces a whole lineup almost every year.
Part of the reason I wanted to do this exercise was two-fold. One, to see what Iowa State's actual unexpected turnover was, and two, to see how it compared to everyone else.That does say a lot actually. I felt like ours was way higher than everyone elses.
no question that Lexi and Denae transfers are huge loss
But Adriana Camber graduated and has a nice job in Chicago. Kristin I believe is working in Rochester. Jadda has a full time job.
It's normal for players to feel that the basketball phase is over and they are ready to have a "steady" job instead of playing overseas. I don't think it's fair to blame this on BF. Players move on. Not everyone wants to be professional athletes forever or even after graduation.
Last coaching change per school:
Baylor - 2021
Iowa State - 1995
Kansas - 2015
Kansas St - 2014
Oklahoma - 2021
Oklahoma St - 2022
TCU - 2014 (2023)
Texas - 2020
Texas Tech - 2018, 2020
West Virginia - 2022
I wonder how much of the expectations for the Cyclone women going into this season played into any player decisions whether to transfer or not. Obviously, unless someone says something specific about it we won't know. But staying together to try and achieve special things isn't far fetched.Camber had no eligibility left so not really germane to your point. Don't disagree that peeps should be free to move on after graduation, whether it be to work or to grab an extra years at another school.
Also fair to say that when things are going well some players will opt to take a 5th year. As much as peeps here like to say Clark is a terrible person and awful teammate, two Hawk seniors starters are coming back for a 5th year to play with her.