Cytown Update

The thing with this project is all of the underground infrastructure is in place and ready to go. Parking is in place as well. These are typically the aspects of a project that take the most time to review, approve and construct. Vertical construction with permitting and actual construction goes much quicker.
 
From many conversations I've had with other ISU fans, I think they simply just don't grasp the concept that JP has a finite amount of money, its never enough money, and he has to make the decisions the best he can with the resources he has. Doubt he really wanted Cael or CM to go, but what's he going to do beside magically conjure up money and resources we don't have.
"Don't tell me the AD doesnt have enough money, their budget is $XX million!!!"
 
The thing with this project is all of the underground infrastructure is in place and ready to go. Parking is in place as well. These are typically the aspects of a project that take the most time to review, approve and construct. Vertical construction with permitting and actual construction goes much quicker.
My employer just did a $30million office expansion. The dirt/foundation work took about a year. Then the building went in on top of that in about 12 months. From a slab to occupied office. This is a two story building for about 200 engineers (we have about 600 on site), a cafeteria with full kitchen sized to serve 250, a patio area, and conference rooms. I can't remember the square footage. But agreed the actual building goes really fast.
 
The thing with this project is all of the underground infrastructure is in place and ready to go. Parking is in place as well. These are typically the aspects of a project that take the most time to review, approve and construct. Vertical construction with permitting and actual construction goes much quicker.
Yeah, being in construction I spend more time than average watching the progress of various things going up, and they can go weeks or months on end looking like nothing is happening and then suddenly a building is there. Once all the prep work is done, it can go really quickly.
 
Well, if you’re a Cyclone fan wanting to cheer on ISU softball a week from now in Iowa City, you’re paying Iowa $10 to get in. Kinda the going rate.
But we let Hawk fans in free in Ames. Such welcoming hosts!
If I am in Iowa City, I have 3rd degree burns over 70% of my body.

If there were a way to charge visiting fans, I'm all for it. Not sure if it is legal, but I would have a policy saying that if you wear visible Iowa State apparel, you get in for free.

If I were Jamie, I would also use softball to dip my toe into selling beer at ISU events. Beers at the ballpark go hand in hand. Five dollar admission and five dollar beers (12oz) probably would be a money maker. Just avoid what happened in Cleveland in '74. But if someone didn't think 10 cent beer night would lead to a headache or two, that's on them.
 
The thing with this project is all of the underground infrastructure is in place and ready to go. Parking is in place as well. These are typically the aspects of a project that take the most time to review, approve and construct. Vertical construction with permitting and actual construction goes much quicker.
If 575,00 square feet of commercial space is completed by "fall of 2027", Goldenrod will be able to take the crown as the greatest developer of commercial real estate in the country!

For example, the 515 Tower in Downtown DSM is about the only comparable project (by size) in the state. That is 300,000 square feet and broke ground 1/2025, with a projected finish spring/summer 2027.
 
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If 575,00 square feet of commercial space is completed by "fall of 2027", Goldenrod will be able to take the crown as the greatest developer of commercial real estate in the country!

For example, the 515 Tower in Downtown DSM is about the only comparable project (by size) in the state. That is 300,000 square feet and broke ground 1/2025, with a projected finish spring/summer 2027.
You're comparing what is mostly 2-3 story retail and office space - essentially empty boxes - with a 33 story tower that will include 360 apartments.
 
You're comparing what is mostly 2-3 story retail and office space - essentially empty boxes - with a 33 story tower that will include 360 apartments.
Yeah the two are not even remotely the same project. Essentially 2 construction seasons to finish the remaining 6 buildings is not impossible at all. I've seen 4-story apartment complexes with more buildings go up in that time.
 
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You're comparing what is mostly 2-3 story retail and office space - essentially empty boxes - with a 33 story tower that will include 360 apartments.
They broke ground for the new Mutual building in Omaha in January of 2023. They just finished the steel in March.

With the infrastructure for Cytown in place I would imagine that they can get the footings and steel in place this summer. Then they can get them enclosed in the fall.
 
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If 575,00 square feet of commercial space is completed by "fall of 2027", Goldenrod will be able to take the crown as the greatest developer of commercial real estate in the country!

For example, the 515 Tower in Downtown DSM is about the only comparable project (by size) in the state. That is 300,000 square feet and broke ground 1/2025, with a projected finish spring/summer 2027.

Not so sure about the "greatest developer of commercial real estate in the country". Three blocks from me, One Chicago, a 77 story double tower of apartments, condos, office space, retail space including a Whole Foods and LifeTime Fitness went up in just over 3 years. It was finished in 2022.
 
Usually, you don't pay to put up construction fence (likely renting the fence) unless the project is starting soon.

The skeptic in me also says this is the cheapest way possible to show the site is "active" without spending real dollars.. Anyone have better insights from subs who are bidding if the work is to start soon?
any day now
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I have noticed some bids for cytown on construction websites over the past couple months. Not sure what exactly as I don’t have access.
 
The university should buy that plot at this point and build something there. Small lecture rooms or offices with retail at the bottom. It just looks bad if you're visiting the university to have seemingly abandoned lots across the street.

Especially since it seems like they're running out of room on campus.