Conference Prediction for ISU

Every joe six-pack fan of every school knows three things:

1) They're team can't rebound
2) They're team has to be the worst FT shooting team in the country
3) Every loss is due to "Effort" and "not caring about anything"
3a) They're team is only terrible at defense in losses

I'm one of the "every joe's" and have no clue how good or bad any team not named Ku and including my own will be in league play. All the conclusions, positive and negative, are based on pretty much pud OOC schedules. We do remain hopeful though.
 
I'm thinking 9-9 right now. 10-8 at best. We will also beat Vanderbilt.

That puts us at 18-12 or 19-11. Depending on how many big wins we can muster up, we'll most likely need to win at least one game in the Big 12 Tournament to make the NCAA Tournament. If the field is weak overall maybe not, but I think we'll be in the bubble range.
 
I think 9-9 is fair. They have sucked really bad at times... hopefully can play well enough to get 9 wins in conference... that should get them a decent dance card.
 
For tourney chances, 8-10 is death this year. 9-9 is precarious

Maybe it works if ISU splits home-home with everybody, meaning at least 3 good wins and no bad home losses.

Or better, sweep a high caliber team and absorb a sweep from another strong team. 10-8 is no guarantee, but wouldn't hurt.

This assumes a win at Vandy.
 
Current kenpom Big 12 predictions, for those who care:

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I did another run-thru on Mred bracket generator

Came up with this:
1. Kansas (15 - 3)
2. West Virginia (13 - 5)
3. Baylor (12 - 6)
4. Oklahoma State (8 - 10) Defeated Iowa State based on record against #1 teams.
5. Iowa State (8 - 10) Lost to Oklahoma State based on record against #1 teams.
6. Oklahoma (7 - 11) With Texas Tech, defeated Texas and Kansas State based on record against #2 teams. Defeated Texas Tech based on draw.
7. Texas Tech (7 - 11) With Oklahoma, defeated Texas and Kansas State based on record against #2 teams. Lost to Oklahoma based on draw.
8. Texas (7 - 11) With Kansas State, lost to Oklahoma and Texas Tech based on record against #2 teams. Defeated Kansas State based on draw.
9. Kansas State (7 - 11) With Texas, lost to Oklahoma and Texas Tech based on record against #2 teams. Lost to Texas based on draw.
10. TCU (6 - 12)
 
I did another run-thru on Mred bracket generator

Came up with this:
1. Kansas (15 - 3)
2. West Virginia (13 - 5)
3. Baylor (12 - 6)
4. Oklahoma State (8 - 10) Defeated Iowa State based on record against #1 teams.
5. Iowa State (8 - 10) Lost to Oklahoma State based on record against #1 teams.
6. Oklahoma (7 - 11) With Texas Tech, defeated Texas and Kansas State based on record against #2 teams. Defeated Texas Tech based on draw.
7. Texas Tech (7 - 11) With Oklahoma, defeated Texas and Kansas State based on record against #2 teams. Lost to Oklahoma based on draw.
8. Texas (7 - 11) With Kansas State, lost to Oklahoma and Texas Tech based on record against #2 teams. Defeated Kansas State based on draw.
9. Kansas State (7 - 11) With Texas, lost to Oklahoma and Texas Tech based on record against #2 teams. Lost to Texas based on draw.
10. TCU (6 - 12)

Id say its safe to say that 5 teams get in the tourney, most likely 6...so the old "conference record doesnt matter its total resume" woukd be coming out if these numbers held true.
 
Predicktion:
Santa better have a sleigh full of nut cups, it's gonna be a painfull season.
7-11.
 
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I'm going to be optimistic and say this team finds its balance between offense and defense against Texas Tech and carries it through the conference play. We go 11-7 and finish 4th and get a 6 seed in the big dance.
 
I did another run-thru on Mred bracket generator

Came up with this:
1. Kansas (15 - 3)
2. West Virginia (13 - 5)
3. Baylor (12 - 6)
4. Oklahoma State (8 - 10) Defeated Iowa State based on record against #1 teams.
5. Iowa State (8 - 10) Lost to Oklahoma State based on record against #1 teams.
6. Oklahoma (7 - 11) With Texas Tech, defeated Texas and Kansas State based on record against #2 teams. Defeated Texas Tech based on draw.
7. Texas Tech (7 - 11) With Oklahoma, defeated Texas and Kansas State based on record against #2 teams. Lost to Oklahoma based on draw.
8. Texas (7 - 11) With Kansas State, lost to Oklahoma and Texas Tech based on record against #2 teams. Defeated Kansas State based on draw.
9. Kansas State (7 - 11) With Texas, lost to Oklahoma and Texas Tech based on record against #2 teams. Lost to Texas based on draw.
10. TCU (6 - 12)
Looks pretty accurate to me. I think OKlahoma State will win a couple more, but I think KU is going to run away with this league pretty easy this year.
 
We have some insanely negative fans here. Outside of our horrible game against Iowa, we've only lost to two ranked teams by a total of 3 points (Gonzaga looks like an elite team this year). This team can surprise a lot of people and I think 11-7 is going to be our record.
 
We have some insanely negative fans here. Outside of our horrible game against Iowa, we've only lost to two ranked teams by a total of 3 points (Gonzaga looks like an elite team this year). This team can surprise a lot of people and I think 11-7 is going to be our record.

But we only beat Drake by 17 in an arena we always have seemed to struggle in so we're terrible! In all seriousness I'd rather be 8-3 with the potential we have then be 1 loss teams like Minnesota, TCU and Maryland. I think we're better than USC and they're undefeated. People need to remember, it's never as bad as it seems.
 
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After much thought and consultation with smart math people, I believe (with a high level of confidence) that our conference record will be some combination of wins and losses totalling eighteen.
 
8-10 at best, but something worse is more likely. This team has no post presence at all, defense is still weak even if improved, and offense just looks like a one-on-one mess. They are not learning from their mistakes and making the corrections. Hope I am wrong, but I just don't see the leadership on the floor that can turn this around.
 
8-10 at best, but something worse is more likely. This team has no post presence at all, defense is still weak even if improved, and offense just looks like a one-on-one mess. They are not learning from their mistakes and making the corrections. Hope I am wrong, but I just don't see the leadership on the floor that can turn this around.

Condescending most models have us 9-9 or better saying 8-10 as a best case scenario doesn't seem very intelligent
 
I'm going to be optimistic and say this team finds its balance between offense and defense against Texas Tech and carries it through the conference play. We go 11-7 and finish 4th and get a 6 seed in the big dance.

So is this just your optimistic post for the thread's purpose, or do you actually believe it? From what we've seen so far, it seems unlikely, but I guess that's why they play the games. I'm just trying to not let my mind wander as to what a bummer of a Selection Sunday it will be if we're not in the discussion. I do think, tho, that if we can finish above .500 in the conference, Prohm would make believers out of many doubters.
 
We have some insanely negative fans here. Outside of our horrible game against Iowa, we've only lost to two ranked teams by a total of 3 points (Gonzaga looks like an elite team this year). This team can surprise a lot of people and I think 11-7 is going to be our record.
Saw some people earlier in this thread pointing to Gonzaga game. That game was kind of an anomoly. Burton turned into Lebron. We can safely assume that Burton has one of those games in him for every ten. Maybe. If Burton doesn't turn into Lebron, Gonzaga would have murdered us.
 
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Saw some people earlier in this thread pointing to Gonzaga game. That game was kind of an anomoly. Burton turned into Lebron. We can safely assume that Burton has one of those games in him for every ten. Maybe. If Burton doesn't turn into Lebron, Gonzaga would have murdered us.

So if someone plays way worse than usual and we lose we can throw out that game too?
 
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