Cheick Diallo Cleared to Play by NCAA

[kentkel]

Who was the Iowa State player ruled ineligible for less than this?

I absolutely think that Diallo should have been declared eligible from the get-go, the NCAA is so crooked, it isn't even funny anymore. But ISU has had a negative track record when it comes to the NCAA and its "eligibility" decisions. I will direct you to a column from 1997 when prized recruit CJ Bruton was denied eligibility even though Seton Hall was never penalized for a more egregious situation. I could also provide examples such as Jiri Hubalek and Lucca Steiger, but here is Bruton's case:
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/article_50c0610f-6fda-5a0d-9ce3-a11962afee58.html
BTW, Bruton received a LOT more than Diallo did, but comparatively, far less than the Seton Hall player did.

 

[CyTwins]

The "impermissible" benefits were for food and some clothes from the guardian while the paperwork was being filled out. Totaling 165 dollars.

The hold up on this had NOTHING to do with that though, it was all academic and why KU spent over 100K looking into it.

But you guys dont bother to actually look into the facts of the case at all. The NCAA never once visited ONSA, never once talked to the guardian even though he requested to be interviewed, never bothered telling KU, Diallo OR the school in question anything. KU spent money on an independent group to investigate Diallo's course work, which they said was HS level legitimate work.

Despite months and months of repeated appeals to find out where in the process they were, the NCAA failed to respond to KU and it was only when KU went public with the gross incompetence of the NCAA that they came up with this bogus impermissible benefits ********.

This was also happening to Yakwe at St. Johns and magically he also gets cleared under much less fan fare on the same day also having to "pay back" like 140 bucks.

GMAFB. Diallo wasnt cheating, he wasnt taking anything extra, this was the only way the NCAA could save face for their gross incompetence and Self even called them on it saying something to the effect that "Im glad Diallo is cleared to play but I disagree with he content of the NCAAs statement. This was always about academics".

So he took impermissible benefits AND had academic issues. Geez, KU fans are lucky it was only 5 games. Seems like it should have been much more

 

[Pitt_Clone]

I absolutely think that Diallo should have been declared eligible from the get-go, the NCAA is so crooked, it isn't even funny anymore. But ISU has had a negative track record when it comes to the NCAA and its "eligibility" decisions. I will direct you to a column from 1997 when prized recruit CJ Bruton was denied eligibility even though Seton Hall was never penalized for a more egregious situation. I could also provide examples such as Jiri Hubalek and Lucca Steiger, but here is Bruton's case:
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/article_50c0610f-6fda-5a0d-9ce3-a11962afee58.html
BTW, Bruton received a LOT more than Diallo did, but comparatively, far less than the Seton Hall player did.

Why would you use that as your main example and not Lucca Staiger? Lucca literally received zero impermissible benefits and was ruled ineligible for an entire season! He played on a team where two other players received money and was ineligible an entire season. Not 5 games, an entire season. It's absolutely mind boggling and should be the go-to example for any Iowa State fan when it comes to absurd NCAA rulings. Bruton actually received money, even if there was inconsistency in the rulings.

http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=1289550

Staiger, a native of Baulstein, Germany, played three seasons for the Ehingen Club team in Germany. Members of that club team – not including Staiger – received stipends that the NCAA determined were above actual and necessary expenses. Therefore, the Ehingen team is deemed a professional organization by the NCAA.

Even though Staiger did not personally receive any impermissible expenses, his participation on a team considered professional makes him ineligible for Division I intercollegiate athletics competition.

 

[randomfan44]

I absolutely think that Diallo should have been declared eligible from the get-go, the NCAA is so crooked, it isn't even funny anymore. But ISU has had a negative track record when it comes to the NCAA and its "eligibility" decisions. I will direct you to a column from 1997 when prized recruit CJ Bruton was denied eligibility even though Seton Hall was never penalized for a more egregious situation. I could also provide examples such as Jiri Hubalek and Lucca Steiger, but here is Bruton's case: http://www.iowastatedaily.com/article_50c0610f-6fda-5a0d-9ce3-a11962afee58.html BTW, Bruton received a LOT more than Diallo did, but comparatively, far less than the Seton Hall player did.

Hubalek had to pay back $1,688.73, meaning he received TEN TIMES what Diallo got yet was suspended for........ one more game. I 100% agree that Staiger's case was ridiculous and he should have been able to play for ISU but it had nothing to do with getting impermissible benefits and being suspended for a period of time. Bruton falls into that same category; archaic NCAA rules defining overseas professional teams/players. Those are a different animal than Diallo's case completely.

 

[jpete24]

Hubalek had to pay back $1,688.73, meaning he received TEN TIMES what Diallo got yet was suspended for........ one more game. I 100% agree that Staiger's case was ridiculous and he should have been able to play for ISU but it had nothing to do with getting impermissible benefits and being suspended for a period of time. Bruton falls into that same category; archaic NCAA rules defining overseas professional teams/players. Those are a different animal than Diallo's case completely.

Good ol' Jiri. Wonder what that guy is up to these days?

 

[mj4cy]

Glad to see KU catch a break for once.

 

[randomfan44]

Why would you use that as your main example and not Lucca Staiger? Lucca literally received zero impermissible benefits and was ruled ineligible for an entire season! He played on a team where two other players received money and was ineligible an entire season. Not 5 games, an entire season. It's absolutely mind boggling and should be the go-to example for any Iowa State fan when it comes to absurd NCAA rulings. Bruton actually received money, even if there was inconsistency in the rulings. http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=1289550

Totally different rules. Whether you think that the rules and punishments regarding amateurism (which snagged Staiger) should match the rules regarding impermissible benefits is for another debate. I would agree that the penalty given to Staiger (and Kanter at Kentucky and numerous other players around the sport) was ridiculous. The ncaa stinks at pretty much anything having to do with a player coming over from another country.

 

[randomfan44]

So he took impermissible benefits AND had academic issues. Geez, KU fans are lucky it was only 5 games. Seems like it should have been much more

As stated, Diallo didn't have any academic issues. The academic issue was the NCAA's. Every single class that they were not initially counting as a core class for Diallo HAD been counted as a core class for other OSNA athletes in prior seasons. The NCAA failed at pretty much everything in this "investigation".

 

[CyTwins]

As stated, Diallo didn't have any academic issues. The academic issue was the NCAA's. Every single class that they were not initially counting as a core class for Diallo HAD been counted as a core class for other OSNA athletes in prior seasons. The NCAA failed at pretty much everything in this "investigation".

Not really, they did find he took impermissible benefits and was suspended for it. Obviously wasn't there best job (if that's even possible with the NCAA) but they at least somewhat saved face

 

[randomfan44]

Not really, they did find he took impermissible benefits and was suspended for it. Obviously wasn't there best job (if that's even possible with the NCAA) but they at least somewhat saved face

That was self reported by the guardian. The ncaa didn't "find" anything.

 

[randomfan44]

16 minutes, 13 points, 6 boards, 3 blocks, about 20 shots changed by the fear of his block. Holy moly, Diallo is going to be a beast.