You mean the class that’s ranked in the 30s on both Rivals and 247? I’m excited about the class coming in as well but you can’t expect them to all contribute next year. Everyone is hyping this class up like it’s the second coming and it’s unfair to them.
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You mean the class that’s ranked in the 30s on both Rivals and 247? I’m excited about the class coming in as well but you can’t expect them to all contribute next year. Everyone is hyping this class up like it’s the second coming and it’s unfair to them.
I haven't seen anything that supports the second coming comment. Personally I think Foster and one of the wings will contribute right away. Walker will be groomed to follow Harris at the point. If we land Brown I think Dubar and Blackwell can be capable backups for he and Johnson.
Rivals:
2018: 17
2019: 39
2020: 35
This class on paper is barely better than the total failure of last years class and significantly worse than the 2018 class. I’m just not seeing how this class takes us to a new level.
24/7 had 2018 @ .9254 which was 28th
2020 @ .9162 which was 25th
2019 @ .8918 which was 56th
Pretty sure those are averages of the 4 hs commits. Harris would raise 2020 while Nixon would of lowered 2018
The numbers you two cite are conflicting and confusing. Towards @gocubs2118, though, I have *no* idea how a class with these rankings on 247...
91.11% Grill
89.04% Jackson
88.93% Anderson
87.64% Leech
Can somehow be just as good as this one...
97.45% Foster
92.38% Blackwell
89.24% Dubar
87.43% Walker
Grill would be the third-highest rated recruit in the present class.
I think @Cyforce probably presents a more reasonable picture.
Saw this with Illinois as the favorite. Didn’t realize he had the connection with the assistant. We of all fan bases know how a previous relationship helps in these things. That’s why the Harris signing was so refreshing... no final four list letdowns.
For comparison, here's how 24/7 has ranked our classes:
2017: 56th
2018: 28th
2019: 56th
2020: 25th
By that estimation, the 2020 class is about the same or slightly better than the class of THT, Tyrese, Conditt and Griffin.
well the 2018 class pretty much turned out to be a cup of coffee and done, so there was not a long term benefit there either. Probably in the long run did us more harm than good in terms of depth and continuity.
And to be honest a big part of why that group did okay on the court was more about a transfer with 1 year of eligibility.
The 2019 class probably dipped closer to 60 when 2 left before the first practice.
The 2018 class turned out two NBA players and Conditt. That was a home run regardless of when they left school.
It is probably a long shot for us to land Brown but he is exactly what we need. His defensive rebounding % this season was identical to Melvin’s senior year. At 6 5 220 he could probably defend multiple positions including the 4.
The big 12 newcomer of the year award used to be given to a cyclone almost every year. Brown could bring it back to Ames where it belongs.
The big 12 newcomer of the year award used to be given to a cyclone almost every year. Brown could bring it back to Ames where it belongs.
I have never understood that.
You can dock Prohm for obvious failures like Anderson and Leech.
But when multiple guys in a class are in the NBA...
How can that class be bad...? How do good players make up a bad class?
I want to win games, and it is obviously the central point of the program to win games, but I take some pride in Cyclones playing professionally, too.
I don't if you don't know this, but Rivals doesn't have a crystal ball and can't tell what is going to be a good player and what is going to be a great, program changing, player.
That and leading to NBA success should be the selling points for ISU. CB's role should be pretty defined in Ames an muddled due to players testing the NBA returning at the other 3.
So antagonistic!
How do you think the 2021 class will look?
The situation is completely different than when we put together that class, and besides in CBB covering your holes in the spring is as big as having a top-25 class.
How is this even a question? The only measure of recruiting that truly matters is its impact on wins. Everything else are proxys and derivatives of that used to guess the likelihood of that happening. Draft picks are great, because it may lead to recruiting that leads to more wins.
As long as you get more value from winning than draft. Can you come up with a scenario in which a poorer season in regards to W-L is better than another because of draft picks?
I am making no predictions about 2021 on any subject right now.
I get your point -- winning and losing is the bottom-line here.
I am just far less upset and far more forgiving to Prohm and the subsequent struggles of, say, Horton-Tucker and Haliburton getting drafted than I am about Leech and Anderson leaving town on the first greyhound that they could find.
I would rather he err on players who are too good than not good at all.
Wait, back when we were winning it was we couldn’t get guys because we have too many good players.
I think we’d be good with Brown and Harris. Maybe even very good if we get momentum and add another. There is no better combination of chance of winning, role/usage, and recent previous example of success with guards (Shayok) than Prohm and ISU. Kane and Prohm have a lot to offer.
espn has em listed as 17th which bumps up the composite. The actual 247 ranking is 31. I could argue he’s taking out the espn ranking to fit his narrative but I can also argue he took it out because espns rating system is a joke. Neither answer matters, just explaining the numbers.
Sorry if I missed it somewhere else, but has there been any updates on Coleman-Lands? One of either Brown or CL would be huge.
