Campbell owns Klieman

I can't stand the never ending love for him on the national podcasts. It's always so obvious that a lot of these guys don't watch the game. They see highlights, look at his recruiting profile, and project stardom.

Rocco is the anti-Johnson. Lower rated recruit, little hype, not flashy, but is an absolute gamer that can put his team on his back when he's needed. And throws a damn good ball, by the way.

He’s only a junior and I bet Rocco has more game winning drives than any active qb, and you don’t even need to count today even though he led key 4th quarter drives.
 
After all the heart breakers we’ve had against them I have no sympathy. We deserve this
Yep . I feel the same where we were favorite, down all game, then Mike Rose did that strip/int to end Snyders career was such a good way to flip the many years of close ones and of course the BS Lazard game. So, yes, this is absolutely earned and feels GREAT!
 
Yep, and I for one really hoped we could get him. The kid has real talent, but clearly there's some off the field questions about him and his family.
What are the off field questions about him?

I will never lump a kid based on what family members do outside of them. Athlete or not.
 
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Well, he did complete 70% of his 30 passes today. Not too shabby against a good defense and first game of the year. I wouldn't blame him for today's loss if I was a fan.
Don't get me wrong, he is a good if not great player. Kansas State showed Will Howard (who won a national title) the door so this kid could get on the field ASAP. He was also being discussed as a legit Heisman candidate this preseason. I just don't see it. I would take Rocco over him without even thinking twice about it and that isnt me being a homer.
 
Well, he did complete 70% of his 30 passes today. Not too shabby against a good defense and first game of the year. I wouldn't blame him for today's loss if I was a fan.
Agree. He was really good today considering the conditions. He's not the Heisman contender KState fans make him out to be, but he's really good. He's one of the best we'll face all season
 
He’s only a junior and I bet Rocco has more game winning drives than any active qb, and you don’t even need to count today even though he led key 4th quarter drives.
Rocco has some bad moments, misses some easy throws, isn't the most talented QB in the world, but goddamn he makes plays when the game is on the line like no other QB in school history.
 
Some guys just have an innate ability to never take big hits and it doesnt seem like Avery Johnson has that sort of wiggle. Watch Lamar Jackson play...I swear no one can EVER square him up. If I remember correctly we knocked Avery out of the game late in the 4th quarter last year and he took 3 or 4 really big hits today as well.
 
Don't get me wrong, he is a good if not great player. Kansas State showed Will Howard (who won a national title) the door so this kid could get on the field ASAP. He was also being discussed as a legit Heisman candidate this preseason. I just don't see it. I would take Rocco over him without even thinking twice about it and that isnt me being a homer.
Avery Johnson reminds me of my favorite idiom: all hat, no cowboy
 
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