Breaking Bad

I think the most underrated part of last night is that family is now in play:
1. Walter, Jr. will be overreacting out of legitimate sympathy
2. Hank and Marie know that Walt is willing to reach out against family now.
3. The whole Walt vs. Jesse thing
4. Nobody anywhere has mentioned this (that I've found yet), but Todd kept calling him Mr. White instead of Heisenberg. I don't know if those guys knew who he was before, but they do now. They're willing to do some killing.

I was wondering about that too. When Lydia visited Walt at the car wash a couple of episodes, I thought it was odd that she knew how to find Walter White (as opposed to Heisenberg) too. I think Walt got a little sloppy in this area.
 
Yesterday's episode was fantastic. I really do think now that...

(Prediction, not really a spoiler)
Hank will end up committing suicide. He has thrown in the towel in his fight against Walt. The preview for next week had Marie saying "He won." I am assuming that's her talking to Hank as he comes to grips with the reality of the situation. The Hank-Walt cat-and-mouse game is over... Heisenberg has won. But the Jesse-Walt game is just beginning.
 
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I find it interesting that people hated Skylar when she was supposed to be the good guy and now that she's a bad guy people are starting to like her.
 
I find it interesting that people hated Skylar when she was supposed to be the good guy and now that she's a bad guy people are starting to like her.

Count me in as hating her all along. I have softened towards Marie though. Other than her completely idiotic move to try and take Holly, which pretty much guaranteed that Skylar would never talk. I have been rooting for Hank and Jesse, but I don't see this ending well for anyone.
 
I get that Jesse knew the ricin was stolen based on the missing weed but he said Walt poisoned the kid based on that. Jesse knows for sure the kid wasn't poisoned with ricin so how does he "know" it was Walt? That was way too confusing for me.
 
The confession by Walt was genius!!!!! Over the course of the entire show I haven't liked Hank so it was nice to see Walt screw him with the confession like he did.
 
I get that Jesse knew the ricin was stolen based on the missing weed but he said Walt poisoned the kid based on that. Jesse knows for sure the kid wasn't poisoned with ricin so how does he "know" it was Walt? That was way too confusing for me.

Walt helped Jesse "find" the ricin in the season premiere. He realized that Walt wanted him to think that Brock had been poisoned with ricin and had Huel lift it to sell the illusion.
 
I really don't see how pulling the crap she pulled tonight is anywhere near the realm of "understandable". At least not in the sense that it's understandable how a moral person would do such a thing. It's understandable that an awful person who cares only about saving her own skin would do something like that.

Its understandable in that she is concerned with saving herself and her family over her sister and her husband.
 
I think the logical response to finding out your husband is a meth kingpin is not to launder his money. It's to go to your brother in law DEA agent.

Empathy is different than sympathy. I empathize with Skyler, but that doesn't mean I can't view her actions in a very poor light.

I don't necessarily think the logical response when you find out your husband is involved in a criminal enterprise is to turn him over to the Feds and tear your own family apart. In the real world most people wouldn't immediately betray their spouse and send them to prison if they found out they were doing something illegal.
 
Its understandable in that she is concerned with saving herself and her family over her sister and her husband.

And that justifies what she and Walt have done? Knowing the motive doesn't make things okay.
 
I don't necessarily think the logical response when you find out your husband is involved in a criminal enterprise is to turn him over to the Feds and tear your own family apart. In the real world most people wouldn't immediately betray their spouse and send them to prison if they found out they were doing something illegal.

I'd buy this if you weren't sure that they were involved in illegal activity. But once you start seeing millions of dirty cash roll in, I think you've gotten a pretty big hint. And especially after the lies upon lies Walt used in the process of keeping this from everyone, it's beyond me that someone would still feel any sense of loyalty in that situation.
 
I'd buy this if you weren't sure that they were involved in illegal activity. But once you start seeing millions of dirty cash roll in, I think you've gotten a pretty big hint. And especially after the lies upon lies Walt used in the process of keeping this from everyone, it's beyond me that someone would still feel any sense of loyalty in that situation.

Oh I don't know, being married to somone for decades and having children with them generally instills some loyalty. In reality, most people will not betray their husband or wife to the authorities if they find out they are involved in crime.
 
And that justifies what she and Walt have done? Knowing the motive doesn't make things okay.

Nobody is justifying their actions and saying its ok to do bad things. We are pointing out her actions are understandable given the circumstances facing her.
 
Oh I don't know, being married to somone for decades and having children with them generally instills some loyalty. In reality, most people will not betray their husband or wife to the authorities if they find out they are involved in crime.

But they will betray them to a creep like Ted Beneke, who then becomes a threat to blackmail them?
 
I'd buy this if you weren't sure that they were involved in illegal activity. But once you start seeing millions of dirty cash roll in, I think you've gotten a pretty big hint. And especially after the lies upon lies Walt used in the process of keeping this from everyone, it's beyond me that someone would still feel any sense of loyalty in that situation.
But by then it was to a point where if Walt went down, she would go down with him, most likely going to prison and losing the children. And she's not completely innocent in this, but her ending up at that point had quite a bit to do with Walt being a master manipulator.
 
But they will betray them to a creep like Ted Beneke, who then becomes a threat to blackmail them?

Yeah, lots of people go through separations and cheat on their spouses. This is much more common then someone turning their husband over to the Feds.

I don't recall Skylar intentionally betryaing Walt's activities to Beneke, but I can't remember all the details.
 
Oh I don't know, being married to somone for decades and having children with them generally instills some loyalty. In reality, most people will not betray their husband or wife to the authorities if they find out they are involved in crime.

I suppose it's understandable to look the other way. It's not understandable to actually actively participate.

That's the difference between her and Carmela Soprano.
 
Yeah, lots of people go through separations and cheat on their spouses. This is much more common then someone turning their husband over to the Feds.

I don't recall Skylar intentionally betryaing Walt's activities to Beneke, but I can't remember all the details.

But after she gave him the money, he was a threat to either squeeze them for more money or turn them over to the feds. Which is why she sent Saul's boys after him. It was just as big a threat to the family. Skylar's stupidity, betrayal, and immorality in the Ted situation goes far beyond just the sex.