Breaking Bad

This show is just going to ruin dramatic television.

I was a big Burn Notice fan, who also just wrapped up their series. Seeing the huge drop in quality there is really giving me even more appreciation for how great the last few episodes for Breaking Bad have been.
 
I was a big Burn Notice fan, who also just wrapped up their series. Seeing the huge drop in quality there is really giving me even more appreciation for how great the last few episodes for Breaking Bad have been.
I thought the final season of Burn Notice was a huge step up from seasons 5 & 6 (which were pretty dang bad) and really enjoyed the finale. Although yes, not nearly as good as Breaking Bad.
 
I thought the final season of Burn Notice was a huge step up from seasons 5 & 6 (which were pretty dang bad) and really enjoyed the finale. Although yes, not nearly as good as Breaking Bad.

Not to sidetrack too much but I agree with everything up to that "and". The season as a whole was a little better but I thought the ending wasn't very satisfying and was full of cliches. I remember turning to my wife and explaining the ending right after the explosion. How the mom's part of the story ended felt forced to me too. In a show where they constantly defeat waves of bad guys Jesse really couldn't come up with anything better than that to deal with 5(?) guys.

Good show, but also glad it's over.
 
I hope that if I ever become a drug lord that my wife handles herself smarter than Skylar....

I don't know, she successfully laundered money, kept the secrets, even helped him make that bogus confession video which royally screwed over her sisters' family. I think she did pretty well overall, given the circumstances.
 
Thanks went back and looked again.. originally didnt see them there. I was looking under season 5. only went to episode 8. Then did a search for season 6 of breaking bad. Nothing came up. But found it under Final Season.

Mediacom On Demand has the past episodes.
 
I'm trying to figure out the logistics of the theory of Walt getting the money back from the Nazis to give to his family. Now that Walt has "confessed" to the police, doesn't that allow for them to put the family under surveillance for a long time "for their own protection"? Heck, they could put Skylar and the kids, perhaps even Marie, into witness protection. I'm guessing "Hey, we won the lottery," wouldn't keep the police from investigating where $80m came from.

I rewatched the phone conversation today. I can pinpoint the moment Skylar got that it was an act from Walt, but could use her still being upset about Holly and Hank to her advantage.
 
I'm trying to figure out the logistics of the theory of Walt getting the money back from the Nazis to give to his family. Now that Walt has "confessed" to the police, doesn't that allow for them to put the family under surveillance for a long time "for their own protection"? Heck, they could put Skylar and the kids, perhaps even Marie, into witness protection. I'm guessing "Hey, we won the lottery," wouldn't keep the police from investigating where $80m came from.

I rewatched the phone conversation today. I can pinpoint the moment Skylar got that it was an act from Walt, but could use her still being upset about Holly and Hank to her advantage.

According to reddit, Walt's NH identification from the episode titled "52" apparently suggests he is a distant relative of Skyler's, with her maiden name. Wanna bet that when he dies, a "distant uncle" of Marie and Skyler set them up for life? Seems too cute for Vince Gilligan, but it wouldn't surprise me, either.
 
I'm trying to figure out the logistics of the theory of Walt getting the money back from the Nazis to give to his family. Now that Walt has "confessed" to the police, doesn't that allow for them to put the family under surveillance for a long time "for their own protection"? Heck, they could put Skylar and the kids, perhaps even Marie, into witness protection. I'm guessing "Hey, we won the lottery," wouldn't keep the police from investigating where $80m came from.

I rewatched the phone conversation today. I can pinpoint the moment Skylar got that it was an act from Walt, but could use her still being upset about Holly and Hank to her advantage.

When Walt comes back to ABQ, he has a full head of hair. So who knows how much time passes before he comes back? Walt is a genius. He will think things through every step of the way, and find the best possible solution to get his family the money.
 
Walt poisoned Brock with Lily of the Valley, not Ricin.

Sorry to quote myself here but I have a question regarding the above statement.

Does anyone think Brock's poisoning will be a factor in the last two episodes? Doesn't Jesse still believe Walt poisoned Brock with Ricin and not Lily of the Valley? Maybe Walt getting the Ricin from the house is to prove to Jesse he didn't poison Brock to kill him, he poisoned Brock to scare Jesse into being okay with Gus's death.
 
I'm trying to figure out the logistics of the theory of Walt getting the money back from the Nazis to give to his family. Now that Walt has "confessed" to the police, doesn't that allow for them to put the family under surveillance for a long time "for their own protection"? Heck, they could put Skylar and the kids, perhaps even Marie, into witness protection. I'm guessing "Hey, we won the lottery," wouldn't keep the police from investigating where $80m came from.

I rewatched the phone conversation today. I can pinpoint the moment Skylar got that it was an act from Walt, but could use her still being upset about Holly and Hank to her advantage.

When Walt dies they won't be under as close of a microscope.
 
Sorry to quote myself here but I have a question regarding the above statement.

Does anyone think Brock's poisoning will be a factor in the last two episodes? Doesn't Jesse still believe Walt poisoned Brock with Ricin and not Lily of the Valley? Maybe Walt getting the Ricin from the house is to prove to Jesse he didn't poison Brock to kill him, he poisoned Brock to scare Jesse into being okay with Gus's death.


I agree with this, if you remember from a couple episodes back when Walt went to visit Brock and his mother, Brock absolutely remembered him. I am hoping something comes of this, not sure what Brock would be able to remember or what he would be able to do, but would be pretty poetic is Brock somehow was part of the reason for Walt's end.
 
I think that if Walt dies and gets the money back he will funnel it through his former company (I can't think of the name). The current owners will make it appear as if they feel bad for screwing Walt over an are giving the family what they feel is Walt's fair share.
 
I think that if Walt dies and gets the money back he will funnel it through his former company (I can't think of the name). The current owners will make it appear as if they feel bad for screwing Walt over an are giving the family what they feel is Walt's fair share.

That makes a TON of sense actually. It would definitely tie up that loose end.
 
I think that if Walt dies and gets the money back he will funnel it through his former company (I can't think of the name). The current owners will make it appear as if they feel bad for screwing Walt over an are giving the family what they feel is Walt's fair share.

If Gray Matter comes into play over these last two episodes I will be unsure what to think. They are obviously a part of Walt's past long, long ago but they have been out of the picture the entire time Walt has been Heisenberg.
 
My theory is that the series will follow Macbeth for the ending. Clearly Gilligan loves using those types of references/paths.

For those that don't know Macbeth, its about a tyrannical ruler who will lie/kill his way to the throne and then do anything and everything to stay in power and avoid suspicion and loss of power. And in the process, sees all of his loved ones die.
 
If Gray Matter comes into play over these last two episodes I will be unsure what to think. They are obviously a part of Walt's past long, long ago but they have been out of the picture the entire time Walt has been Heisenberg.


They brought up in that Grantland recap how Walt left his relationship with his former lab assistant, now co-owner of Gray Matter, so I guess technically that would be a loose end as well since no one really knows what happened.
 
My theory is that the series will follow Macbeth for the ending. Clearly Gilligan loves using those types of references/paths.

For those that don't know Macbeth, its about a tyrannical ruler who will lie/kill his way to the throne and then do anything and everything to stay in power and avoid suspicion and loss of power. And in the process, sees all of his loved ones die.

I've watched/read interviews where Gilligan says the most perfect movie ending of all time (in his opinion) is Casablanca. I'm not sure how the story of Casablanca goes but I'm going to predict BB will end with a similar structure.
 
My theory is that the series will follow Macbeth for the ending. Clearly Gilligan loves using those types of references/paths.

For those that don't know Macbeth, its about a tyrannical ruler who will lie/kill his way to the throne and then do anything and everything to stay in power and avoid suspicion and loss of power. And in the process, sees all of his loved ones die.

Walt's already moved away from that archetype. He was willing to surrender his entire empire to save Hank's life, and he sacrificed himself in the last episode to save his family from criminal liability and make them look like victims.
 
I've watched/read interviews where Gilligan says the most perfect movie ending of all time (in his opinion) is Casablanca. I'm not sure how the story of Casablanca goes but I'm going to predict BB will end with a similar structure.

Links/sources to my Casablanca prediction. I was wrong about the structure of the storylines. Its the satisfaction of the ending to Casablanca that they're looking to reproduce.

'Breaking Bad' Creator Vince Gilligan Aiming For 'Casablanca'-Esque Series Finale, Says It Will Be "Polarizing" | The Playlist
“It’s going to be polarizing no matter how you slice it,” Gilligan told Vulture, “but you don’t want 10 percent to say it was great and 90 percent to say it sucked a**. You want those numbers to be reversed.” Of course, we won't know what exactly is going to happen until the episode airs, but according to Gilligan, he's aiming for a kind of bittersweet finale, not unlike one that was stamped on one of the greatest classic movies of all time -- "Casablanca."


Vince Gilligan on Writing Breaking Bad
How Casablanca got it exactly right. In terms of nailing the end, Gilligan says he and the writers don’t talk about TV — they talk movies. And for him, Casablanca remains “pretty perfect.” “No one gets everything they wanted. The guy doesn’t get the girl, but he has the satisfaction of knowing she wants him. And he doesn’t get her because he has to save the free world. What better ending is there than that?” Gilligan said. “I’m not saying we’re going to approach that or reach in that direction. Our story doesn’t line up [with Casablanca]. But we’re looking for that kind of satisfaction.”