I think the Ou is for Oklahoma University and uT stands for University of Texas. Put it together and you get OuT, which is what they are, OuT of the Big12.
Big-12 / Pac-12 possible merger
- Thread starter bgprest
- Start date
At the beginning.
Again, with respect, you nor I have ever cheered for an ISU team that wasn't in a power conference. It could go real bad, real fast. We truthfully can't know.
No, JTS/facilities won't get imploded but new ones/upgrades will be much fewer and farther between and not even a great HC can remedy that for a relegated program.
I've thought about this some. Why can't we be the Cincy/UCF of the world - obvious answer, geography and population proximity. I actually think North Dakota State is closer to what an ISU in G5 would look like. I know, it's a really sad thought, but I think it's honest. I hope I don't have to be proven one way or another and we land in the B1G or Pac
But I have cheered for an Iowa State program that was lower than whale poop - including the bottom-out year of 1994 (0-10-1). Terrible program with terrible facilities with terrible fan support and without solid administrative support. Being in a Power Conference meant diddly back then!
Iowa State NOW has advantages over most of the current G5 programs including the successful ones like Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, Boise State, etc. I know that it would be a tough adjustment, especially ecnomically, but Iowa State will still be light years ahead of the other schools in the AAC and / or MWC (if it comes to that).
I keep reading article after article about how none of the Big 12 has value to another power conference. As a league, all Big 12 teams are deemed “damaged goods” and the likelihood of any team from the Big 12 heading to a power conference at this point in time is low. The ACC is the next conference that will get destroyed by the B1G and the SEC. these are the cards we were dealt unfortunately.
The only way I see this playing out is the Big 12 eventually adding teams from the AAC and taking less money to do so. It doesn’t matter how good we are today, this is about money. Frankly, I don’t know that I will watch college football anymore outside of ISU. It just bums me out. But, life moves on.
The only way I see this playing out is the Big 12 eventually adding teams from the AAC and taking less money to do so. It doesn’t matter how good we are today, this is about money. Frankly, I don’t know that I will watch college football anymore outside of ISU. It just bums me out. But, life moves on.
Yes, my Cyclone brother, it really really did. Because by some twist if during the formation of the Big XII the SWC schools demanded more representation who knows, maybe we get relegated to the WAC? But we didn't. The Big 8 stuck together and we formed another power league which we're still in that has brought us to heights never before achieved by Cyclones Football.
The next step for the SEC will to have no out of conference games.
That was the league that refused to move to 9 conference games and now you have them playing only a conference schedule. While the media and the fans might like it, the coaches and AD's that have to win games sure will not be favor of it. What is Arkansas record without two or three creampuffs a year, or Kentucky?
Under the current system everyone should be able to schedule at least a couple of wins a year, without that all of a sudden the 8-4 SEC record that was 4-4 in conference with 4 out of conference wins does not look nearly as impressive for the league from the outside media.
As long as Georgia Southern, Troy State, Rice, and Southern Mississippi are willing to take the $$$ to be sacrificial lambs the SEC will have no problem scheduling out of conference.
You can agree to and announce a merger without it taking place. You can simply announce it will happen after 2025. The pressure would be on the SEC and OU/UT there since they’re the ones that want to get out early. And it would cost the Big 12/Pac 12 nothing. Maybe big 12 teams could agree that they’ll split the payout from OU/UT with an early exit with Pac teams to sweeten the deal of the merger.
There isn't a school that wants to play ISU right now. However, we'd be one hell of a match up with any team in the PAC 12 and would draw eyeballs.
Iowa State has been in the same situation schools like Mizzou, Vandy and Purdue are in right now. Lucky to be in the league that isn't falling apart because your power brokers aren't leaving but instead expanding. In 1995-96 when the Big 12 was formed we got "lucky" just like those schools are now. The SWC folded and the teams that got left behind have spiraled to varying levels of relevance. TCU made it back to P5 level (for now). Houston, SMU, Rice haven't.
1995 Houston feels a lot like Iowa State fans do right now.
1995 Houston feels a lot like Iowa State fans do right now.
With a possible anti Trust lawsuit on the horizon. This is going to be crazy.
Why are you reading "hookemheadlines.com"?? This site or publication should have zero credibility and zero right to discuss the remaining 8 schools.If I read this correctly, this idiot thinks we are the least desirable P12 candidate
Big 12 Football: 3 least appealing schools for PAC-12 expansion
Finding a home from this perspective in a conference like the PAC-12 could be tough for some of the remaining Big 12 football programs.hookemheadlines.com
I'm not saying it will be the same as now, but the competition will not be the same either. There is no reason that ISU cannot out recruit almost every single current AAC or MWC school for an athlete. Iowa State would literally be the gem of the G5 teams with a chance to go to a NY6 (or equivalent) Bowl every single year.
