I’m aware that officially it’s not a thing. Still doesn’t mean they were the best team in the Big 12 that year. Does a banner or whatever really change that for you? Doesn’t for me.
Asking again: Has the rot started to set in?
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I’m aware that officially it’s not a thing. Still doesn’t mean they were the best team in the Big 12 that year. Does a banner or whatever really change that for you? Doesn’t for me.
I, for one, would much rather have the hardware than the moral victory.
Actually, yes.
Like I can't tell people ISU won a conference title that year because there's no actual record of it
As someone who voted yes after the Ohio loss, I can't believe there are still people saying yes. We're 7-2, yes the last two games have sucked but we're literally playing freshman walk ons on defense.
Would I prefer if they won? Absolutely. Doesn’t mean they weren’t the best team in the conference that year though.
I’d rather have done what Iowa State did than be able to claim a division title and get blown out in a CCG like Iowa has done. But hey, at least they got the little banner under their name on Wikipedia for winning the Big 10 West.
you must also claim that UCF is a national champion then
Nobody is arguing about a division title because it's not relevant to this conversation. Like it or not, what we did in 2020 is almost identical to winning the B1G West only to lose in the CCG. Granted, we kept it close in our lose, but still.
And, for what it's worth, I believe overall OU was ultimately the better team. We just stayed healthier for the whole season.
Our two coaching options for the foreseeable future are quick stepping stones where the person leaves before actually achieving anything and takes all the good players with them, or finally finding one guy willing to stay and try to develop their way thru many years into a star program for a little while through ebbs and flows.
CFB has two classes of teams now: Haves, and Have Nots. We are firmly and forever will be a Have Not in this system.
We are not getting invited to the Big 10 or SEC, so our window of relevancy is pretty meaningless. Our conference is a 1 bid league going forward unless the playoffs expand. If we can’t make the conference championship this year then I don’t see how we ever will. Campbell had the easiest path possible and we returned pretty much every starter from last year. He’s proven to us he can’t take the next step. If we are content with that, then I guess so be it. Winning 8 games in a half mid major conference isn’t that amazing even if our history was bad in a big boy conference.
The covid year continues to be an extreme outlier for us. All around just not even close to a normal football season. Teams making playoffs playing 5 total games and teams playing in NY6 bowls that were 3rd in their crappy division at 4-3.
Just because we played a full conference slate doesn't mean it was normal. You can't just ignore the many starters our opponents were often missing.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the most impressive thing we did in 2020 was stay healthy during the regular season.
I claim Margot Robbie as my wife then.
So we can discount this season as well due to our missing so many starters with injury. The rot discussion is hereby tabled until next year.
We will never be a program that can have this many injuries and not experience issues from it.
Man people really have forgotten how bad the Big 12 schedule was when we had the North/South divisions. The 2 years we dodged OU and Texas our schedule was soft AF. Danny Mac wracked up a sh!t load of wins against bad teams and NEVER won a big game outside of Iowa.
I think it the coaching staff should be given a huge amount of credit for accomplishing what they have given our injury situation, so yeah, kind of.
2020 wasn't a normal year for football. It doesn't mean our season and winning the Fiesta Bowl means any less, but it wasn't under normal circumstances. It just wasn't.
