Alcohol vs Weed

If had to choose for a typical evening, weed or alcohol

  • Alcohol

    Votes: 230 63.5%
  • Weed

    Votes: 132 36.5%

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madguy30

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Nothing about weed makes you more likely to try those others. People willing to try **** will try ****. They'll blow right past the MJ and into those things.

Yeah I've known people that went straight from alcohol to meth.

Like I said it's the availability.
 

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A big reason why heroin addiction is getting worse is because the people who got addicted to pills 10-15 years ago when they doctors were handing them out like candy needed another way to get their fix when doctors quit prescribing it to them. That's why heroin is so common in suburban and even rural areas now. It's a whole new demographic. So pills have been a big gateway drug for heroin addicts.

I have had multiple surgeries, always get oxy or hyrocodone for pain. Take it for a day and throw it away. It messes me up, just stick to ibuprefon.
 

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I don't think alcohol companies are that against it. A lot of people use both, and that opens up things like "Cannabis infused beer" to them.

Pharmaceutical companies are absolutely against it, and a certain sector of American politics have made it part of the culture war. Weed is for lefties/minorities/hippies/etc.

Vodka!

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I have had multiple surgeries, always get oxy or hyrocodone for pain. Take it for a day and throw it away. It messes me up, just stick to ibuprefon.
You’re damn smart in doing that.
 

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My “gateway drug” was mushrooms. I tried them before I ever smoked weed.
As far as weed goes, I don’t really like to smoke it, but edibles are good. It’s pretty rare that I use any drug besides alcohol now though. I do wish that Iowa would legalize weed because honestly I think it’s less harmful on your body than cigarettes or alcohol.
 

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I have had multiple surgeries, always get oxy or hyrocodone for pain. Take it for a day and throw it away. It messes me up, just stick to ibuprefon.
My left hip was 11 years old on 4-30. My right hip will be 6 on 8-28. Both surgeries at UIHC.

11 years ago, a Xanax when leaving Muskieville before check in. A two night stay and, after I showed competent movement, released with enough oxycontin to cover a semester tuition at I State.

6 years ago, no Xanax pre-op, and sent home with some junior hydrocodone.

Both times took one day of pain med's at home and had a bushel leftover.

Enough left over to become an addict, if predisposed, or make some $$$$ if an evil human.
 
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I am wearing my Cheech & Chong shirt tonight so the timing of seeing this post is kinda perfect.

I started smoking weed when I was about 14... 1992-ish... and after almost 30 years I can say that it has never caused any medical issues or anything like that. It has done me a lot of good, actually. And New Mexico just recently legalized it! When I was a youngen I never hid being a stoner and that is probably why I was arrested for possession a few times. I got heavily involved with the NORML organization, but never thought I would ever actually see legalization happen.
 

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I am wearing my Cheech & Chong shirt tonight so the timing of seeing this post is kinda perfect.

I started smoking weed when I was about 14... 1992-ish... and after almost 30 years I can say that it has never caused any medical issues or anything like that. It has done me a lot of good, actually. And New Mexico just recently legalized it! When I was a youngen I never hid being a stoner and that is probably why I was arrested for possession a few times. I got heavily involved with the NORML organization, but never thought I would ever actually see legalization happen.
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weed tends to explode my brain. last time i tried edibles i couldn't speak for about 3 hours. I took about 1/16 of what the rest of the party took and everyone was having a great time except for me. couldn't hold on to a thought for long enough to verbalize it.

it wasn't very fun. I have tried pot in various forms probably 50x in my life. I have had a good time probably 3 of those times. turns out, its just not for me.
 
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Honest question.

How do people end up taking meth, cocaine, crack, heroin, etc? Do they just start out with those, or is there a progression? Sure - I can google medical journals, but what are the experiences here?

They probably have alcohol first. Then cannabis.

The problem with the gateway drug argument is that it discounts how for every heroin addict that started with cannabis, there’s 20 cannabis users who never moved on to the hard stuff.
 
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They probably have alcohol first. Then cannabis.

The problem with the gateway drug argument is that it discounts how far every heroin addict that started with cannabis, there’s 20 cannabis users who never moved on to the hard stuff.
Right, alcohol is first. Thats your true gateway drug, and in terms of addiction and acute fatality it is one of the hardest drugs out there. Its right behind crack, heroine, cocaine, and meth. Weed isn't anywhere close to those. Of course alcohol is acceptable in society so people like CNE think weed is the problem.
 

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Right, alcohol is first. Thats your true gateway drug, and in terms of addiction and acute fatality it is one of the hardest drugs out there. Its right behind crack, heroine, cocaine, and meth. Weed isn't anywhere close to those. Of course alcohol is acceptable in society so people like CNE think weed is the problem.
Well - there's always that little detail that, until recently alcohol was legal and pot was not.

I have come full circle on pot, though. I don't plan on using it recreationally, but I am definitely interested in the pain management and other health applications.
 
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They probably have alcohol first. Then cannabis.

The problem with the gateway drug argument is that it discounts how far every heroin addict that started with cannabis, there’s 20 cannabis users who never moved on to the hard stuff.
I think I agree with you on that. If pot is a gateway drug, you have to include alcohol as well.
 

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Right, alcohol is first. Thats your true gateway drug, and in terms of addiction and acute fatality it is one of the hardest drugs out there. Its right behind crack, heroine, cocaine, and meth. Weed isn't anywhere close to those. Of course alcohol is acceptable in society so people like CNE think weed is the problem.

I guess I know plenty of people who smoked before they drank (ironically, something that's completely illegal is actually easier to get ahold of than something that's legal and highly regulated when you're part of the population that isn't legally allowed to use it), but the point about the VAST majority of cannabis users never moving on to harder drugs remains the same.

Just because people start with something soft, doesn't mean that thing is what makes them more interested in harder drugs. People start using harder drugs usually because they're trying to kill some kind of emotional pain or trauma and find that drugs temporarily alleviate those feelings. Pretty soon something mild like cannabis isn't enough. Cannabis didn't create that - the underlying pain and dysfunction did.