Alcohol vs Weed

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god i wish i was still a TA.... this would be on the canvas site (blackboard for you old heads)

 

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"This is like if that Blue Oyster **** met that Afghan Kush I had - and they had a baby. And then, meanwhile, that crazy Northern Light stuff I had and the Super Red Espresso Snowflake met and had a baby. And by some miracle, those two babies met and ****** - this would the **** that they birthed.”

 

[HitItHard58]

"This is like if that Blue Oyster **** met that Afghan Kush I had - and they had a baby. And then, meanwhile, that crazy Northern Light stuff I had and the Super Red Espresso Snowflake (Oh that was bomb) met and had a baby. And by some miracle, those two babies met and ****** - this would the **** that they birthed.”

 

[Jer]

I have to say - and am not pointing any political fingers - but oh man is our state slow and even going backwards on the whole "weed" topic. When most states are opening up or moving in that direction, our newest law further limits availability, potency, and dosage of even the non-psychoactive, largely safer than alcohol products. By also limiting the forms, varieties, and ability to flavorize cannabis, our laws feel 100 years outdated.

Despite my strong political alignment with those that insist on legalization, I've never really had an opinion on the weed legalization thing. As somebody that hasn't ever had alcohol or drugs, but knows well (and is big part of why never used) the terrible creatures they can turn people into (biological father), I've always had mixed feelings on any type of intoxicant and how restricted they should be.

After begrudgingly, and very painfully mentally, giving in and trying medical cannabis the past month, I'm a huge believer. Yes, it can absolutely impair judgement and cause the exact same "severe drunken" type of consciousness as alcohol, but nothing worse. Both could be used recklessly and be totally debilitating to one's ability to drive, make decisions, be physically safe, etc. I had severe pain from Parkinson's last night and "over did it" to the point of being face down on the floor for 14 hours. It just as easily could have been a whisky in my hand instead of vaporizer.

Anyways - point of rant is that even for the medical use of cannabis, we suck. The state allows 4.5 grams in a 90 day period. A single cartridge is 1 gram and smaller than one of those tiny glass perfume sample bottles from Yonkers. Anything you would buy online (not legal in Iowa to do) is typically 2 grams or even up to 8 for a single vial. And since there are hundreds of strains that all have different mixtures of effects, if you want a variety of say 10-15 vials, you're SOL. That's like saying you can get a license to drink alcohol, but you're only allowed (the equivalent amnt) of 6-10 cans in a 90 day period.

 

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I have to say - and am not pointing any political fingers - but oh man is our state slow and even going backwards on the whole "weed" topic. When most states are opening up or moving in that direction, our newest law further limits availability, potency, and dosage of even the non-psychoactive, largely safer than alcohol products. By also limiting the forms, varieties, and ability to flavorize cannabis, our laws feel 100 years outdated.

Despite my strong political alignment with those that insist on legalization, I've never really had an opinion on the weed legalization thing. As somebody that hasn't ever had alcohol or drugs, but knows well (and is big part of why never used) the terrible creatures they can turn people into (biological father), I've always had mixed feelings on any type of intoxicant and how restricted they should be.

After begrudgingly, and very painfully mentally, giving in and trying medical cannabis the past month, I'm a huge believer. Yes, it can absolutely impair judgement and cause the exact same "severe drunken" type of consciousness as alcohol, but nothing worse. Both could be used recklessly and be totally debilitating to one's ability to drive, make decisions, be physically safe, etc. I had severe pain from Parkinson's last night and "over did it" to the point of being face down on the floor for 14 hours. It just as easily could have been a whisky in my hand instead of vaporizer.

Anyways - point of rant is that even for the medical use of cannabis, we suck. The state allows 4.5 grams in a 90 day period. A single cartridge is 1 gram and smaller than one of those tiny glass perfume sample bottles from Yonkers. Anything you would buy online (not legal in Iowa to do) is typically 2 grams or even up to 8 for a single vial. And since there are hundreds of strains that all have different mixtures of effects, if you want a variety of say 10-15 vials, you're SOL. That's like saying you can get a license to drink alcohol, but you're only allowed (the equivalent amnt) of 6-10 cans in a 90 day period.

Welcome. I understand your need, I think, though I obviously haven't experienced it. Believe me, the aches and pains of being 67 after a lifetime of casual sports and manual labor are relieved just as thoroughly.

I don't believe it's political, though here it seems to align that way. Trolling Troglodytes with unchecked power will do what they do. But they don't have the power they THINK they do. They've created a temporary inconvenience, that is all. Keep persevering, man. We'll get there eventually.

Oh, and the face down with the vape pen thing only happens once. Live and learn.

 

[Cig 'em]

I have to say - and am not pointing any political fingers - but oh man is our state slow and even going backwards on the whole "weed" topic. When most states are opening up or moving in that direction, our newest law further limits availability, potency, and dosage of even the non-psychoactive, largely safer than alcohol products. By also limiting the forms, varieties, and ability to flavorize cannabis, our laws feel 100 years outdated.

Despite my strong political alignment with those that insist on legalization, I've never really had an opinion on the weed legalization thing. As somebody that hasn't ever had alcohol or drugs, but knows well (and is big part of why never used) the terrible creatures they can turn people into (biological father), I've always had mixed feelings on any type of intoxicant and how restricted they should be.

After begrudgingly, and very painfully mentally, giving in and trying medical cannabis the past month, I'm a huge believer. Yes, it can absolutely impair judgement and cause the exact same "severe drunken" type of consciousness as alcohol, but nothing worse. Both could be used recklessly and be totally debilitating to one's ability to drive, make decisions, be physically safe, etc. I had severe pain from Parkinson's last night and "over did it" to the point of being face down on the floor for 14 hours. It just as easily could have been a whisky in my hand instead of vaporizer.

Anyways - point of rant is that even for the medical use of cannabis, we suck. The state allows 4.5 grams in a 90 day period. A single cartridge is 1 gram and smaller than one of those tiny glass perfume sample bottles from Yonkers. Anything you would buy online (not legal in Iowa to do) is typically 2 grams or even up to 8 for a single vial. And since there are hundreds of strains that all have different mixtures of effects, if you want a variety of say 10-15 vials, you're SOL. That's like saying you can get a license to drink alcohol, but you're only allowed (the equivalent amnt) of 6-10 cans in a 90 day period.

I believe for $50 or so, you can request to have the amount allotted increased for the medical program. I just drive to Missouri instead. Way more selections down there.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I have to say - and am not pointing any political fingers - but oh man is our state slow and even going backwards on the whole "weed" topic. When most states are opening up or moving in that direction, our newest law further limits availability, potency, and dosage of even the non-psychoactive, largely safer than alcohol products. By also limiting the forms, varieties, and ability to flavorize cannabis, our laws feel 100 years outdated.

Despite my strong political alignment with those that insist on legalization, I've never really had an opinion on the weed legalization thing. As somebody that hasn't ever had alcohol or drugs, but knows well (and is big part of why never used) the terrible creatures they can turn people into (biological father), I've always had mixed feelings on any type of intoxicant and how restricted they should be.

After begrudgingly, and very painfully mentally, giving in and trying medical cannabis the past month, I'm a huge believer. Yes, it can absolutely impair judgement and cause the exact same "severe drunken" type of consciousness as alcohol, but nothing worse. Both could be used recklessly and be totally debilitating to one's ability to drive, make decisions, be physically safe, etc. I had severe pain from Parkinson's last night and "over did it" to the point of being face down on the floor for 14 hours. It just as easily could have been a whisky in my hand instead of vaporizer.

Anyways - point of rant is that even for the medical use of cannabis, we suck. The state allows 4.5 grams in a 90 day period. A single cartridge is 1 gram and smaller than one of those tiny glass perfume sample bottles from Yonkers. Anything you would buy online (not legal in Iowa to do) is typically 2 grams or even up to 8 for a single vial. And since there are hundreds of strains that all have different mixtures of effects, if you want a variety of say 10-15 vials, you're SOL. That's like saying you can get a license to drink alcohol, but you're only allowed (the equivalent amnt) of 6-10 cans in a 90 day period.

Difference being you probably won’t get liver cancer, beat on your family, or get alcoholism when on the weed.

 

[Gorm]

Anything you would buy online (not legal in Iowa to do) is typically 2 grams or even up to 8 for a single vial. And since there are hundreds of strains that all have different mixtures of effects, if you want a variety of say 10-15 vials, you're SOL.

You may want to take a look into https://holycityfarms.com/. I haven't set a foot inside a dispensary since finding this site. They ship to Iowa and I've never had one issue with them. Their flower is great! I've been very impressed with their offerings / products.

 

[Jer]

I believe for $50 or so, you can request to have the amount allotted increased for the medical program. I just drive to Missouri instead. Way more selections down there.

Yeah my legal limit is now 8g based on neurologist’s waiver for PD. That will help make sure I have my 4 core strains available within 20 miles whenever I may need more.

With that said… I’m not saying I personally do so, but buying much broader ranges of products with specific traits and unlimited quantities on the internet is an option many select with great success. One could hypothetically get 20 ish varieties of 2 gram carts based on ideal terpenes mixes and varieties of THC (D9 THC, THCA, THCJD, THCP, etc) so they always have the right medicine depending on the mix of symptoms (there are many). And that doesn’t touch on the endless varieties of tech heavy gadgets to try for nerds.

 

[83cy]

You may want to take a look into https://holycityfarms.com/. I haven't set a foot inside a dispensary since finding this site. They ship to Iowa and I've never had one issue with them. Their flower is great! I've been very impressed with their offerings / products.

All their stuff is less than 0.3% delta-9 THC, does it do anything? I know people use THC for pain and I'm glad it works for them. But if I have pain and do a gummy or do some smoke the pain is worse, because my senses are heightened, and I tend to focus on the pain. What is the trick?

 

[ClonerJams]

All their stuff is less than 0.3% delta-9 THC, does it do anything? I know people use THC for pain and I'm glad it works for them. But if I have pain and do a gummy or do some smoke the pain is worse, because my senses are heightened, and I tend to focus on the pain. What is the trick?

I could be wrong, but I think the 0.3% TCH is the federal limit for the farm bill as that is what separates hemp from marijuana. That being said, it works. They just extract the THC from hemp (its just not as efficient as extracting it from marijuana). At the end of the day its still THC in these products and it does the trick.

 

[Gorm]

All their stuff is less than 0.3% delta-9 THC, does it do anything? I know people use THC for pain and I'm glad it works for them. But if I have pain and do a gummy or do some smoke the pain is worse, because my senses are heightened, and I tend to focus on the pain. What is the trick?

Oh yes, its 100% THC. I will say I have never gotten the paranoia like some THC heavy strains have given me in the past. I think this has to do with the high CBD content. - I would warn, at least for me, the combination of THC and CBD is a bit of a couch locker for me. Regardless of the strain.

 

[cyputz]

Going though my third day ( nerve block wearing off) of shoulder replacement - weed looking pretty good right now!!!

 

[Jer]

The .3% rule is from the Farm Bill. It’s by a total weight calculation that makes for a huge loophole. So I have a THC gummy for instance that is 100mg of Delta 9 THC, it’s just a bit bigger gummy than you’d take for vitamins. Likewise I have some gummies that each have

25mg Delta 9
5mg THCPA (33x stronger than D9)
5mg THCJD (also magnitudes stronger)
5mg Delta 11

and that gummy is smaller than our kids’ vitamin or melatonin gummies.

 

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I could be wrong, but I think the 0.3% TCH is the federal limit for the farm bill as that is what separates hemp from marijuana. That being said, it works. They just extract the THC from hemp (its just not as efficient as extracting it from marijuana). At the end of the day its still THC in these products and it does the trick.

Yes, BUT, if they are hydrolysing hemp-extracted CBD into some of the fringe cannabinoids, there is some gray area involved. Sure, some of these chemicals show up in regular weed in trace amounts, but the research on them is very limited. Delta-8 seems to be a popular derivative, but I find it mega sedating. D-10, D-11, who knows? I have read that the longer the chain the greater the binding time, which is why you may feel a hangover from hemp-derived edibles.

Then you have the Entourage Effect. CBD seems to dampen the effects of some compounds like D-9 but maybe enhance the effect of others. Plug in the multitude of terpenes and it's pretty complex.

Depending on your goals, there are a lot of directions you could go. Myself, I'm leaning toward full spectrum vapes and THC edibles with or without CBD, CBG or CBN when I'm in the market. I'm avoiding smoking any flower or consuming lab altered versions of the synthetic cannabinoids. Of course, YMMV. Someone like Jer is going to have completely different priorities.

 

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[Jer]

Iowa-based. Legit. Enjoy.

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Not sure about the company above, but I've found The Green Dragon and Binoid have huge selections, and a ton of options without that weak **** Delta 8. D9 THC, THCA, THCP, THCJD, Sugars, Resin, Rosin, etc are all available. Note with THCP - it's 33x stronger than normal D9 THC so don't make the mistake of consuming as much as you would normal D9 to start (or learn the hard way).

A huge plus with many of these sites is you can always find great deals and coupons. Unfortunately, a large number of the best online shops don't ship to certain states, with Iowa always being one. But those, Exhale, Bud & Mary's, etc have no such restrictions and IMHO the best products.

 

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Not sure about the company above, but I've found The Green Dragon and Binoid have huge selections, and a ton of options without that weak **** Delta 8. D9 THC, THCA, THCP, THCJD, Sugars, Resin, Rosin, etc are all available. Note with THCP - it's 33x stronger than normal D9 THC so don't make the mistake of consuming as much as you would normal D9 to start (or learn the hard way).

A huge plus with many of these sites is you can always find great deals and coupons. Unfortunately, a large number of the best online shops don't ship to certain states, with Iowa always being one, but those, Exhale, Bud & Mary's, etc have no such restrictions and IMHO the best products.

Sky High is Cedar Falls based, but product usually ships from WI. The hemp-based THC, CBD and CBG gummie is the best I've tried. All the Binoid edibles just seemed like groggy sleep therapy for me. YMMV. I also found the 10mg beverage iterations to be more pleasing for taste and effect than Climbing Kites.

 

[Jer]

Sky High is Cedar Falls based, but product usually ships from WI. The hemp-based THC, CBD and CBG gummie is the best I've tried. All the Binoid edibles just seemed like groggy sleep therapy for me. YMMV. I also found the 10mg beverage iterations to be more pleasing for taste and effect than Climbing Kites.

Good to know. While I have several gummies, I've moved to almost exclusively vape because you can get very specific strains that have very different experiences. I started out thinking Sativa = upper, Hybrid = best of neither, and Indica = downer.

What I've found though is that there are thousands of strains and hybrids so I can get exactly what I need depending on the moment. Leafly currently lists 8,324 strains in their database.

Since vape is instantaneous and wears off much quicker than edibles (4-6 hours instead of up to a full day), I can change things up as needs progress. In the 45 days I've been down this path, I've amassed 29 different strains and in a spreadsheet recorded ingredients, personal effects/experience per amount consumed, if tiring, muscle relaxing, headaches, stress and anxiety relieving, etc. It's made a world of difference with a lot of my Parkinson's and mental health symptoms.

Note - I've never even had a beer or smoke before so it took a lot to get me to explore this based on my Neurologist's prescription (Parkinson's is one of only a few eligible diagnosis in Iowa).