Better go back to school for another ~$80,000 to get these precious licenses. It also keeps teachers in positions they may have realized they don't really like but feel trapped by the amount of time and money it took to get started.
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Better go back to school for another ~$80,000 to get these precious licenses. It also keeps teachers in positions they may have realized they don't really like but feel trapped by the amount of time and money it took to get started.
My work experience has all been accounting. If tomorrow I wake up and decide I want to be an engineer, yes I should be required to go learn some engineering before I go engineer some machinery, buildings, bridges, etc. I'm good with numbers and have engineered some tools and parts for my racing but in no way am I qualified to be an engineer and design things to be used by the public.
Education is like drivers license. Different exposure different training needs. Airplane different than semi, than car, than motorcycle. Different exposure different licensing
If you've got to go back to school and take a bunch of not-relevant or repetitive course work it could get expensive quickly.
You don't have any idea what the requirements would be for adding a typical endorsement, right?
The person that hit "Winner" on your post already pointed out the alternative pathway for this situation when the experience is applicable to what they want to teach. There are other programs for situations when the experience isn't applicable, which makes sense also.
But that isn’t what people are talking about. People are talking about an accountant who has worked for an engineering company for twenty years and knows the information needed to be an engineer. No one is saying we should lower the knowledge requirements for an occupation. We are saying that certifications or licenses should be about whether you actually know the information not whether you took the classes. The CPA exam should absolutely be a hard test. It should weed out people who aren’t serious. It shouldn’t weed out well qualified non traditional people though.
In the case you mentioned I still think it's a good idea for a test to prove the person knows the crucial information.
You have to start from somewhere. Adding endorsements is a different deal. I did not know the extent of freaking details they've added since I was in school. I think they only had K-6 and secondary education back then.
Because most parents don't want someone trying a new role on their kid.
Oh, your kid has anger issues, well this elementary PE teacher of 15 years certainly knows all the best approaches to handle that issue. No thank you ... give me someone that has been appropriately trained in helping a kid deal with anger.
PE teachers don't get angry kids in class?
They still should have to take the test but under the current rules for the CPA for example, unless there is an exception I don’t know about, they can’t even take the test.
You are such a *******. There is clearly a difference between having an angry kid in class and how you handle the kid in class versus working with kids on strategies to deal and cope with anger issues.
I discount experience when it is not related to what the job requires. PE teachers have to know how to count to keep score. But 15 years experience doing that doesn't mean they are ready to teach Calculus. You need a base knowledge that requires experience directly related or classroom knowledge/training. All these people that are saying that they learn the most "in the first year" have that knowledge as their base; they aren't going form zero to teacher/counselor/accountant/engineer immediately.
Like maybe slowed him down for the year that I had to listen to him fumble around with basic Physics concepts while he received more training? Is this really a hill your going to try and plant your flag on?
Basic knowledge can be learned in many places (ie YouTube) and can be tested.
No, slowed him down enough that you sneak through with some other Physics teacher you didn't like and kids a year or two later got to enjoy his teaching.
Was there an option for her to get endorsed in a wider range of grades during her time in school?
Those would be covered by the same endorsement. You couldn't, as a person with a K-8 or 5-12 Math endorsement all of a sudden decide to teach physics though.
