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Many ADs, McIntosh included, are woefully under qualified for what that job has become in major college sports. These are big time CEO type jobs now. Hiring former players and familiar faces ain’t it anymore.

From reading some Wisconsin boards it probably doesn't surprise you that the AD may also not be long for his job at Wisconsin, at least if the fanbase had any say.
 
It may be a good idea for Wisconsin to get a new AD. Let him settle in, redo the buyout, and hire next year in perhaps a less competetive coaching environment (meaning less high profile openings).
 
how is the buyout structured? Most of the time it's paid out in the same way the salary would have been paid out (so 5-10 million a year depending on what the coaches salary was) Some have a duty to mitigate (which Franklin had) which requires the coach to seek another job to limit the payout PSU pays him. There are a few really bad contracts that require the entire buyout within 30 days (I think Stoops at Kentucky has this, which is why he's still employed)

If AI is correct, his buyout it 80% of his contract so roughly 25 million paid out in monthly installments. That's not that hard to come up with and fairly simple to budget (though obviously schools would rather not)
Not sure how his contract was structured. But Wisconsin was struggling to fundraise for the additional $20M per year for the athletes.

They have a lot of expenses for facilities and quite a few sports (including expensive ones like men’s and women’s hockey). An additional $5-$10M a year might not seem like a lot. But it is if their best boosters are tapped funding the athletes and facilities
 
Not sure how his contract was structured. But Wisconsin was struggling to fundraise for the additional $20M per year for the athletes.

They have a lot of expenses for facilities and quite a few sports (including expensive ones like men’s and women’s hockey). An additional $5-$10M a year might not seem like a lot. But it is if their best boosters are tapped funding the athletes and facilities

right. Now imagine those boosters say no more funding if he's their coach
 
right. Now imagine those boosters say no more funding if he's their coach
Yeah I agree there. But that doesn’t solve the funding problem. My guess is they’re hoping Fickell does just enough to placate any boosters from pulling funding for one more year.

You literally have Big Cat Barstool begging for more money from Wisconsin boosters on national TV. That should tell you all you need to know about their current financial situation.

Would it make sense for Wisconsin to cut a sport to fund this buyout. Cause that literally might be a decision they’d have to face.
 
Not sure how his contract was structured. But Wisconsin was struggling to fundraise for the additional $20M per year for the athletes.

They have a lot of expenses for facilities and quite a few sports (including expensive ones like men’s and women’s hockey). An additional $5-$10M a year might not seem like a lot. But it is if their best boosters are tapped funding the athletes and facilities
Hockey is RIDICULOUSLY expensive. I'm shocked that anyone still offers it.
 
His buyout is as massive as Franklin’s and FSU probably doesn’t have as deep of pockets.

I’m still shocked PSU actually pulled the trigger on letting Franklin go. One of their whales had to have ponied up big bucks (Orr threatened to pull all his/her dollars) to force them to make that move
As noted in another thread, that whale is named Adidas, who just paid PSU $300M to switch from Nike for next year.
 
The boosters will force the issue and come up with enough money to make the buyout happen. I get the feeling that both Wisconsin and EIU is in the same boat, they are rolling in a lot of money, but between facility upgrades and law suits, its going out as fast as its coming in. Both are like a lot of farmers, rich on paper and struggling to pay the bills because they have both been building and spending like drunken sailors back from overseas.
Be careful who call a drunken sailor. Not every farmer is as rich as you think.
 
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Hockey is RIDICULOUSLY expensive. I'm shocked that anyone still offers it.
This article is 3 years old, but Hockey makes the 3rd most revenue in college sports. So it isn't a money hole for every school.

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The No. 3 revenue-producing sport is men’s hockey, coming in at $2.5 million per school. No surprise, but the top schools in terms of hockey revenue are all in the north: Wisconsin leads the way at $6.2 million, followed by Minnesota-Duluth ($5.8 million), Providence ($5.6 million), Boston ($5.6 million) and Northeastern ($5.5 million).

At the end of the day college sports doubles as marketing for schools so many are fine with losing some cash. There are a lucky few that make money though. in 2024 Minnesota gopher hockey made 1.84 million revenue surplus out of 7.84 total revenue.

College hockey is also in an interesting place because with NIL canadians are now looking at going south to play college instead of sticking to juniors in Canada. (which is causing an understandable freakout in junior hockey circles in Canada) I don't know if that will affect the total fandom and revenue since hockey is a bit of an acquired sport imo. However, schools like Penn State have invested heavily in that past 10 years. Which makes me think they think there is some cash to be made.

 
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It may be a good idea for Wisconsin to get a new AD. Let him settle in, redo the buyout, and hire next year in perhaps a less competetive coaching environment (meaning less high profile openings).

Unless you like one of the castaways. James Franklin could be had on the cheap I’d think. I understand his contract with PSU only pays the difference between his PSU salary and what he gets from his new job. Maybe Wisconsin only wants to pay him $50,000 per year?
 
Campbell isn't stupid he can see the unrealistic expectations other schools have and knows he has an AD that will stick with him if he happens to have an off year.
Not only does he know that Pollard would stick with him if we have an off year - Pollard already has. We were 4-8 in 2022 and there wasn't even a thought that Campbell was on the hot seat. It would probably take 3 straight seasons like that for it to be a real conversation. And honestly, I don't see that happening with Campbell as head coach. The culture is too strong.
 
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I don’t hate this, but I do hate that there’s not a clause about coach failing to make the CFP and having the total reduced to no higher than 12th. I know Cignetti had them over a barrel, but this is the stuff that is just ludicrous without a counter.
 
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I don’t hate this, but I do hate that there’s not a clause about coach failing to make the CFP and having the total reduced to no higher than 12th. I know Cignetti had them over a barrel, but this is the stuff that is just ludicrous without a counter.
If you're Indiana and you find yourself relevant for the first time since the late 60s, you're probably fine paying a premium for a guy that's absolutely the real deal and will make you more money than you ever possibly could being bad.
 
Be careful who call a drunken sailor. Not every farmer is as rich as you think.
Brand new X9 combine and new tracked 4WD, but can't afford to put on the full rate of fertilizer.

Some of the younger farmers weren't around during the farm crisis and might be in for a bit of an awakening as markets shift.
 
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Ok, I have received $1.70 for corn, $4.70 something for beans. Paid 18% interest. Seen $4000 an acre farm ground go to about $1700 an acre. Ya it can get worse from here. Also you could buy a furnace to burn the $1.64 corn in to heat your house if you wanted. I don’t own enough to trade even up for a x9. Our newest tractor is a 2011. Combine is older then that. Ya there will be more pains in the farm sector. Sh$t happens.
Go Cyclones
 
This article is 3 years old, but Hockey makes the 3rd most revenue in college sports. So it isn't a money hole for every school.


At the end of the day college sports doubles as marketing for schools so many are fine with losing some cash. There are a lucky few that make money though. in 2024 Minnesota gopher hockey made 1.84 million revenue surplus out of 7.84 total revenue.

College hockey is also in an interesting place because with NIL canadians are now looking at going south to play college instead of sticking to juniors in Canada. (which is causing an understandable freakout in junior hockey circles in Canada) I don't know if that will affect the total fandom and revenue since hockey is a bit of an acquired sport imo. However, schools like Penn State have invested heavily in that past 10 years. Which makes me think they think there is some cash to be made.

NIL combined with a couple other rule changes could possibly cause an explosion of interest and possibly ratings (relative to what they were) for college hockey. Sparty has 19 current NHL draft picks on their team this year and Michigan has about a dozen.

That’s such a massive leap in talent that would be playing juniors or somewhere else before the changes.

Hockey also has one major advantage in that during the offseason or off days the rink can also be used by students and club/IM teams where a lot of other facilities can’t.
 
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how is the buyout structured? Most of the time it's paid out in the same way the salary would have been paid out (so 5-10 million a year depending on what the coaches salary was) Some have a duty to mitigate (which Franklin had) which requires the coach to seek another job to limit the payout PSU pays him. There are a few really bad contracts that require the entire buyout within 30 days (I think Stoops at Kentucky has this, which is why he's still employed)

If AI is correct, his buyout it 80% of his contract so roughly 25 million paid out in monthly installments. That's not that hard to come up with and fairly simple to budget (though obviously schools would rather not)
Very true, the Florida coach gets $10.5 million in 30 days from being fired and then another $2.5 million on July 15th for the next four years. His contract also does not have a kickback to lower the amount if he is hired by another school.

Depending on Finkells buyout, it may not be that much if the $25 million is paid out gradually over the length of the contract. Much easier to come up with an extra $5 million a year for the next 5 years than one large payout of say $20 million in a month, then $1 million a year for the next 5.
 

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