Can’t help themselves. Have you heard of the scorpion and the frog fable?
2025-2026 MBB computer projections thread
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You’re missing the point. He’s been there and witnessed it and made his judgement and therefore it’s true. The rest of us are just ignorant fools.
KenPom has home court advantage ratings.
Might be helpful if somebody wanted to check where Nebby stands...
Relative to say Iowa State, Iowa, Creighton, Kansas, and Kansas State as near neighbors/peers.
You can argue about Nebraska in here but bring some data to the fight.
Might be helpful if somebody wanted to check where Nebby stands...
Relative to say Iowa State, Iowa, Creighton, Kansas, and Kansas State as near neighbors/peers.
You can argue about Nebraska in here but bring some data to the fight.
Lol, you guys are getting upset about people talking about Nebraska but when I mention people talk about Iowa too much in this thread everyone is against me.
You can't even make this stuff up anymore.
What? This is the computer projections thread, not the college basketball thread. Calm it down.
Doesn't matter what thread, its the same concept.
not jealousy for me. it's reality and opinion and eyeballs. i love that Fred has brought Nebraska to prominence and is having a great season. But two things can be true. While I think that...I also don't think they have one of the best college atmosphere's and I also don't think they're going to make it very far in March.
my goodness the fact that you are THIS riled up about Nebraska basketball's homecourt is...truly something. love it.
To be a bit more on-topic here:
I can't find historic data (he seems to only have the current season up on the website) but in kenpom's home court advantage metric, Iowa State is +3.8 (#22) and Nebraska is +3.4 (#58):
Big 12 is by far the most home-friendly conference, like it is not even close. Five of the top-10 HCAs and 11 of the top-25 HCA are in the Big 12. Arizona is a surprising 12th in the Big 12 in HCA.
I can't find historic data (he seems to only have the current season up on the website) but in kenpom's home court advantage metric, Iowa State is +3.8 (#22) and Nebraska is +3.4 (#58):
Big 12 is by far the most home-friendly conference, like it is not even close. Five of the top-10 HCAs and 11 of the top-25 HCA are in the Big 12. Arizona is a surprising 12th in the Big 12 in HCA.
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Hilton being #22 is enough to tell me these metrics aren't worth much.
I'm not sure what the HCA number means (I would guess difference in NetRtg), but there's not a lot of separation in it. Going from 3.80 to 3.94 would jump you from #26 to #11.
He's cagey about an exact explanation, but I found these articles.
Looks like it is a more complex regression of net rating but also some other efficiency stats.
https://kenpom.com/blog/how-to-measure-home-court-advantage/
https://kenpom.com/blog/how-to-measure-site-specific-home-court-advantage-part-two/
In all my days watching college basketball not ONCE has Nebraska been discussed as one of the toughest venues in the sport. Not one single time.
It's just localized sensationalism because of Fred's success. Gotta feed that algorithm for the clicks.
A lot of our perception of the "best home courts" is fueled by qualitative assessment, some bias toward our own court (who doesn't love Hilton on here?) and taking up places where we tend to lose (Phog Allen, not without good reason), and just a "good home court" usually being backed up by a good team.
This discussion reminds me of one time Bill Barnwell (the NFL writer) did a similar analysis of NFL home field advantages. I am linking to the article, and while the eventual winner was one you might guess the rest of the teams at the top of the table were definitely not ones with an intimidating reputation.
https://grantland.com/features/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages/
He found Seattle was the best (expected) but then... Baltimore, San Francisco, and Arizona. Some teams you would expect near the top (New England, Philadelphia) somehow ranked near to the bottom.
The result was such a "huh?" one Barnwell concluded one of two things must be true. Seattle made sense, but nobody thinks of the Bank, Santa Clara, or Cardinals Stadium as particularly intimidating.
1.) The public perception that say Arrowhead is a near-impossible place to play is somehow wrong (despite all the anecdotal data about its hostility and loudness and testimony by opposing players that one is always a hard one) when you take a cold, hard look at the numbers of home/road efficiencies.
2.) The raw numbers do not capture something unquantifiable about the game experience.
I probably come down 30-70 on the two arguments. Home field/court advantage definitely exists. You can see it in the Las Vegas spreads. But it is colored so much by subjective experience by coaches, players, and fans that you can only really make valid comparisons in the broadest sense and not with precision.
Playing @ Nebraska is tough because Nebraska is good. Their fanbase has slowly started to come out for this sport because they’ve had some exciting years of the last 10. Obviously nothing crazy, they still haven’t won a game in the tournament, but this year is different.
Either way, you can make the above statement without gaslighting people saying it’s one of the toughest environments in CBB. Probably one of the dumbest takes I’ve heard in some time.
Either way, you can make the above statement without gaslighting people saying it’s one of the toughest environments in CBB. Probably one of the dumbest takes I’ve heard in some time.
I remember working in Omaha during a football season. Every Friday afternoon before a home game there were tickets available for free. Big companies buy out the remainders to keep the sellout streak alive.
Looks like the Devaney center held 13,500 people which would have put Nebraska at about #20 in attendance if it was filled. Since the day the new facility opened at 15,500 capacity they have averaged over 15,400 people, including 2015 when they averaged 15,569. Somehow over capacity. Almost like the are gaming attendance numbers but who would do these things? Who would even know how?
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Nebraska is weirdly obsessed with attendance figures (see their football "sellout" streak)
