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Besides Brown did we get anyone else in the sell off?

I may of cried when they let Schwarbs walk

Here's what we got with the core sell off:

Baez: PCA
Bryant: Killian and Canario who are both gone now
Rizzo: Alcantara and Vizcaino (never made it further than High A ball and I believe an arm issue ended his career)

Hit on 1 of the 3 trades at least which is a reminder why holding your prospects doesn't always pan out too.
 
Here's what we got with the core sell off:

Baez: PCA
Bryant: Killian and Canario who are both gone now
Rizzo: Alcantara and Vizcaino (never made it further than High A ball and I believe an arm issue ended his career)

Hit on 1 of the 3 trades at least which is a reminder why holding your prospects doesn't always pan out too.
Yes the Robertson/ Brown deal was the following year. But we did get Palencia for Chafin. Only other acquisition close to ML talent was yet to blossom. Alcantara.
 
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Finally CC was asked if the HRs were enough to reevaluate the staff. He said yeah we’ll discuss it. We got some time.

I think you go to Taillon with bat in hand and ask him what hurts?
 
Finally CC was asked if the HRs were enough to reevaluate the staff. He said yeah we’ll discuss it. We got some time.

I think you go to Taillon with bat in hand and ask him what hurts?

Assad to the rotation, Taillon to mop-up duty. Release him when Cabrera returns, or the Cubs make a trade for a new starting pitcher. Jamo is done.
 
Caught the end of the Cards/Reds game today and there weren't many fans at game. Thought maybe Cardinal Fan had come to conclusion that early season run was a fluke. Nope, Card announcers mentioned the heat index was 115-120. That's pretty tough to sit through, especially in sun.

They said the upcoming Cubs series will be same weather. Counsell has done a good job of spreading out innings over the last week. Civale has been a blessing eating up multiple inning and if Cubs move Assad to rotation, he's going to be critical.
 
I doubt Jed just DFA Taillon. Either he goes to the bullpen as the long guy replacement for Assad who is likely going to take his next start or he has another timely IL stint for some made up injury. Don't see Jed just eating that contract and watching some team pick him up after he clears waivers and he all the sudden figures it out.

Taillon definitely has gotten to the point he needs to be removed from the rotation. I've defended leaving him in the rotation given his track record and how well he pitched when it mattered last season but he's been a huge liability this year that he's used up all the good will he built up.
 
I doubt Jed just DFA Taillon. Either he goes to the bullpen as the long guy replacement for Assad who is likely going to take his next start or he has another timely IL stint for some made up injury. Don't see Jed just eating that contract and watching some team pick him up after he clears waivers and he all the sudden figures it out.

Taillon definitely has gotten to the point he needs to be removed from the rotation. I've defended leaving him in the rotation given his track record and how well he pitched when it mattered last season but he's been a huge liability this year that he's used up all the good will he built up.
I was also a defender coming into the year, but it is certainly time.

I was going to disagree about the DFA, but you just can't count on anything in this rotation this year. I hope we've seen his last pitch as a Cub.
 
I was also a defender coming into the year, but it is certainly time.

I was going to disagree about the DFA, but you just can't count on anything in this rotation this year. I hope we've seen his last pitch as a Cub.
Would it shock me if they DFA him at this point? Probably not but it just doesn't seem like the move Jed would make just yet especially given how many pitchers we've had injured. I think they probably will move him to the bullpen and see if pitching on a limited basis can get him back on track. He has been good for stretches with the Cubs but it definitely is at a point his starts are hurting the team right now and even he admitted that after the game. If we had more health in the rotation right now I think a DFA would be more likely but Steele is not going to make starts when he comes back and it sounds like it could be the same case for Brown as well so unless they acquire a starting pitcher or 2 at the deadline and Cabrerra shows he can stay healthy down the stretch I don't see Jed just tossing out a guy was pretty good for us down the stretch late last year. Now if the struggles carry over into hurting us out of the bullpen too then it will be a no brainer at that point as we start to get pitchers healthy and likely make some additions at the deadline too.
 
Would it shock me if they DFA him at this point? Probably not but it just doesn't seem like the move Jed would make just yet especially given how many pitchers we've had injured. I think they probably will move him to the bullpen and see if pitching on a limited basis can get him back on track. He has been good for stretches with the Cubs but it definitely is at a point his starts are hurting the team right now and even he admitted that after the game. If we had more health in the rotation right now I think a DFA would be more likely but Steele is not going to make starts when he comes back and it sounds like it could be the same case for Brown as well so unless they acquire a starting pitcher or 2 at the deadline and Cabrerra shows he can stay healthy down the stretch I don't see Jed just tossing out a guy was pretty good for us down the stretch late last year. Now if the struggles carry over into hurting us out of the bullpen too then it will be a no brainer at that point as we start to get pitchers healthy and likely make some additions at the deadline too.
I know the league is cracking down on phantom IL stints, but this would be the perfect time to buy yourself a few weeks to get Cabrera back and deadline acquisitions in place.
 
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What do folks think the reasoning is on bringing him up if he isn't going to play?

I think it's good for guys to just experience the majors for a bit.

Even if he rarely plays and is sent down in two weeks, that experience would be helpful down the road if an injury every forced him into a bigger role.

Plus, the end of our bench isn't playing much right now regardless of who it is. Get Alcantara more ABs in Iowa and barring a trade he'll probably be back at some point. Doesn't hurt to keep him fresh.
 
I doubt Jed just DFA Taillon. Either he goes to the bullpen as the long guy replacement for Assad who is likely going to take his next start or he has another timely IL stint for some made up injury. Don't see Jed just eating that contract and watching some team pick him up after he clears waivers and he all the sudden figures it out.

Taillon definitely has gotten to the point he needs to be removed from the rotation. I've defended leaving him in the rotation given his track record and how well he pitched when it mattered last season but he's been a huge liability this year that he's used up all the good will he built up.
Not sure you can afford to keep an unusable pitcher. Nobody would ever claim him but somebody might sign him after he clears. It’s not much ( prorated league minimum) but it’s something. More importantly if we add at the deadline. We’re going to have relievers that have had success getting sent down. I don’t think you keep him unless they think there’s some hope of fixing him.
 
Not sure you can afford to keep an unusable pitcher. Nobody would ever claim him but somebody might sign him after he clears. It’s not much ( prorated league minimum) but it’s something. More importantly if we add at the deadline. We’re going to have relievers that have had success getting sent down. I don’t think you keep him unless they think there’s some hope of fixing him.
For me, it's mostly the uncertainty of the next couple weeks. Assuming all goes to plan I think he's done after that, one way or the other. I don't think he'll be a bullpen guy on this team.
 
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Not sure you can afford to keep an unusable pitcher. Nobody would ever claim him but somebody might sign him after he clears. It’s not much ( prorated league minimum) but it’s something. More importantly if we add at the deadline. We’re going to have relievers that have had success getting sent down. I don’t think you keep him unless they think there’s some hope of fixing him.
Phil Maton and Tyler "turd" Ferguson says hold my beer... I'd throw Jordan Wicks into that category as well. Maton at least is on the IL Wicks in Iowa and I doubt Ferguson is around much longer. I agree with RivClone23, I think they hold onto him at least until they figure out how the pitching staff is going to look like after the deadline and the health status of the guys on the IL. He may eventually get cut at some point but in the meantime, I would assume they are going to try and find a way to hopefully fix him in the bullpen. We'll find out soon enough I think because there is no point in wasting a roster spot on him if they replace him in the rotation and don't think they can use him out of the bullpen either. With the stretch of games over the next 2 weeks really can't afford to be in limbo with his role or roster spot.

If they cut him I'm fine with that too, gotta get better production out of that rotation spot right now with what is still on the line for playoff implications.