Thinking about moving out of Iowa

What's a bit interesting in my experience is if you move to an area that's transient the ability to reinvent yourself and merge with the local culture is easier. There isn't a "gatekeeper"

SoCal. Vegas.

Places where the population doesn't move has higher walls and more history to overcome when trying to integrate.
Rural USA in a nutshell. I lived in a very small Iowa town for about 8 years after graduation. Population less than 1000 and maybe 5 different last names. I was always the new person who lived in "the old so-and-so place" and "so-and-so" was like three owners ago.
 
To me that sounds perfect. The sun is an evil bastard! I love dark cloudy days. Just wish WA was more affordable.
Really depends on how close you are to the Seattle metro. Anywhere along the east side of Puget Sound is expensive. It gets cheaper as you go north, to a point. Marysville is kind of the northern edge of commuting distance so north of that it gets cheaper. But further north yet is Bellingham, which is a cool city but it is more expensive too. It's a lot like Cedar Falls - smaller but urbanish with a the state's third largest public university. Also right on a deep water bay so has a cool, historic waterfront. There are a lot of more affordable places on the peninsula that, with ferries, are still very accessible to downtown Seattle.

Seattle traffic is notorious awful. I find the drivers aren't bad or aggressive, there are just too many for I-5/405. But the geography really limits the options to expand. However there are decent and improving public transit options to drive to Everett and then take the lite rail the rest of the way. I can even take a train from my city's downtown, 60 miles north, all the way to T-Mobile Park or Lumen Field. Or to the airport.
 
What's a bit interesting in my experience is if you move to an area that's transient the ability to reinvent yourself and merge with the local culture is easier. There isn't a "gatekeeper"

SoCal. Vegas.

Places where the population doesn't move has higher walls and more history to overcome when trying to integrate.
I’ve definitely noticed the same thing. As a general rule, in areas with lots of transplants it’s fairly easy to make friends because lots of other people will be in your same shoes and are looking to add to their friend group and will be quick to invite you in.

In areas where everyone has lived there their whole life and been friends since kindergarten, it can be kind of tough. Everyone seems to already have all of the friends they want/need and they aren’t super quick to invite in anyone new. You always feel kind of like an outsider because everyone else has already been friends for a long time and you’re the only new one.

I bet some people experience the same thing when they move to Iowa. Compared to most places listed in this thread, Iowa probably has a high percentage of people that have lived their whole lives in the state.
 
Just got out of a long-term relationship a few months ago and I've been thinking about moving out of Iowa now that I have nothing tying me down.
I wanted to hear from others who have left where you ended up, if you have any advice about picking a place to live, etc.
I'm thinking somewhere with mild winters, relatively close to mountains or beaches, good job market and lots of people around my age (30s). My current job is as a Product Owner at an insurance company so thinking it would be relatively easy to find something similar in a bigger city.
Thanks!
My family moved from DSM to Columbus, OH last year and it has been a very positive change for all of us. Give Columbus a look - the cost of living is very comparable to Des Moines.
 
My family moved from DSM to Columbus, OH last year and it has been a very positive change for all of us. Give Columbus a look - the cost of living is very comparable to Des Moines.
I really enjoyed my 2+ years in Columbus. Definitely has bigger city vibes, especially with the sports team in town, but with a midwest vibe.
 
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After grad school I moved to Wenatchee, WA for a term (18 month) job. Had no plans on staying. Thirty-two years later, we're still here. Wenatchee is ideally located in the rain shadow of the Cascades. It's dry here, but you can be in sage brush and wheat fields to the east, and it's a 10 minute drive to ponderosa pine forests. Every thursday I leave my office at 4:00 for a 4:30 mountain bike ride with a small group. Similarly, in the winter you can be at the ski slopes within 30 minutes. We have the Columbia River right in town for watersports. Great salmon fishing (when its open), etc. etc. We have good breweries and wineries. We used to frequent Bend, OR, for these things, but we have it all here. The Wenatchee/Leavenworth mountain biking trails are world class.

That said, its getting hotter and drier. You can pretty much count on weeks to months of smoke every year from wildfires. Housing is expensive. Gas prices are really high. But wages tend to keep up.

Now that I'm nearing retirement, I've been starting to peruse Zillow in the Post Falls / Coeur d'Alene area. They get about twice the precipitation, more trees, and opportunities for a decent sized piece of property for elbow room. Lower prices just due to being in Idaho. For the purposes of the OP, CdA is close enough to Spokane that you could have a better chance of finding work.
My daughter and SIL lived in Seattle. We live in Minneapolis. My wife is not a flier so we've driven I-94/I-90 a few times. Its a pretty good road trip. Bad lands, mountains, and Coeur d'Alene is kind of the crown jewel of that trip.

My one gripe is driving another 45 minutes west through Spokane and it feels like you've travelled from the prettiest place on earth to the movie set you'd see in a spaghetti western.
 
Moved to Houston within 2 months of graduating from ISU for an engineering job and have been here for 11(!) years. No way I expected that upon accepting the first job.
My takeaway is it depends what you prioritize if i'd call it recommend

Pros: -big city amenities. Great food & drink options, pro sports teams, fine arts& museum options, solid airports to get you anywhere in the world.
-Diversity. Met people from all over the world. Especially in the city it's minority to be from Houston originally
-generally strong earning potential to cost of living ratio. For engineering specifically pay is close to tech jobs but cost of living is closer to midwest.
-winter weather is awesome. Some cold snaps but not abnormafor sunny 60-70 in mid Jan.

Cons: - horrible summers. Take peak bad iowa August hot & humid day and stretch it from early May to Halloween. Coupled with high rain and hurricane potential it can be rough.
-Lack of nature. Average midwest outdoor rec options blow Houston out of the water. Some of the big city parks have money funnelled into them and good for urban options but it's the exception not the norm.
-ISU alum base is a light compared to other Texas metros Austin & DFW
 
Really depends on how close you are to the Seattle metro. Anywhere along the east side of Puget Sound is expensive. It gets cheaper as you go north, to a point. Marysville is kind of the northern edge of commuting distance so north of that it gets cheaper. But further north yet is Bellingham, which is a cool city but it is more expensive too. It's a lot like Cedar Falls - smaller but urbanish with a the state's third largest public university. Also right on a deep water bay so has a cool, historic waterfront. There are a lot of more affordable places on the peninsula that, with ferries, are still very accessible to downtown Seattle.

Seattle traffic is notorious awful. I find the drivers aren't bad or aggressive, there are just too many for I-5/405. But the geography really limits the options to expand. However there are decent and improving public transit options to drive to Everett and then take the lite rail the rest of the way. I can even take a train from my city's downtown, 60 miles north, all the way to T-Mobile Park or Lumen Field. Or to the airport.
We went out to Seattle last year. Wife had a cousin who lives in port Townsend, main reason we were there. The houses seemed to be mostly 1940ish two stories where they were. They were about a block from the water. Made me feel like small town Iowa there. Except for the water.
 
We went out to Seattle last year. Wife had a cousin who lives in port Townsend, main reason we were there. The houses seemed to be mostly 1940ish two stories where they were. They were about a block from the water. Made me feel like small town Iowa there. Except for the water.
We're in Mount Vernon, in the Skagit River Valley. It's a flat(ish) agricultural area so it actually reminds me of Iowa a bit. Significant immigrant population that works the fields. The crops are human food though - potatoes, broccoli, asparagus, baggage, lettuce, berries, etc. And a few thousand acres of commercial daffodil and tulip fields. Its right in the Pacific Flyway so twice a year we get trumpeter swans that migrate through in addition to the normal ducks and geese. Chuckanut Mountains to the north, North Cascades to the east, Straight of San Juan de Fuca to the west, and Seattle to the south. I don't work in Seattle fortunately so my commute is only about 15 minutes.
 
When I mentioned this post to my wife, her first response was "Idaho". We haven't been, but know at least two couples who have relocated to Idaho from Iowa and adore it. And as I said, gives you all the upside of hiking, wilderness, outdoor activities. However it will be one step cooler in comparison to say, Colorado -- but still milder than Iowa.

Colorado is crazy milder in winter than Iowa. They still get snow in the winter, sometimes large quantity, but often it melts away within 2-3 days. It can also be quite a bit hotter in the summer -- you're closer to the sun man -- but never as humid as Iowa.
Boise/Nampa has been booming for quite some time. Its the mountain states version of Des Moines
 
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Carolinas offer proximity to both mountains and beaches coupled with a reasonable cost of living and some change of seasons. As a recruiter you become aware of what we call "migration patterns". People who move to Carolinas from the Midwest tend to stay there. Versus people who move from Midwest to the Upper Atlantic seaboard who typically tend to move back.
I spent a lot of time in N. Carolina and for many years my favorite state.
 
My family moved from DSM to Columbus, OH last year and it has been a very positive change for all of us. Give Columbus a look - the cost of living is very comparable to Des Moines.
I lived in Columbus after graduating, 1995-1998. Was surprised at the size of Columbus. I'd never been there and thought it was another typical B1G college town, didn't know at the time it had >1 million. Lived in German Village and worked in the Short North. Crime was still an issue then on the tOSU campus along High St. but it sounds like they've cleaned that up. The obsession with tOSU athletics was something else, but a fun couple of years. Went down to Yellow Springs several times, cool little town and the state park down there is beautiful.
 
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Just to hit the flip-side of this discussion...

I don't think its a big deal when youre young, but once you have a family it does get harder. Grandparents want to see their grandkids. Flying is cheap with one economy ticket, but is tougher buying 4 and traveling with all the things kids require. There's a window where its easier for grandparents to travel to you, but after a certain age airports and road trips get hard for them too.

You will spend PTO on trips home rather than actual vacations. And it may not be an enjoyable trip depending on the reason for traveling. It sucks to be really far away when family needs help.

There will be things you miss. For us it's thunderstorms, lightning bugs, cicada drones on summer nights, barbecue (they don't know how to barbecue in the PNW), good pork...
 
OK, you’ve gotten answers from a lot of people that like to be around people or want to be around outdoor activities like hiking in our mountains or skiing or whatever.

I’ll give you the introvert, mobility challenged, indoor lover answer..

What I found is I really like Waukee because you can be an extreme introvert and not know your neighbor and still feel safe with the kids playing with their kids. We’ve lived in now for about 11 years and we love it and every day it gets better with new places opening to the point where in another year will be basically a self-sufficient fully stocked city with a mid sized town vibe. The schools can’t be any better with kids with ADHD, OCD, etc. I hate the politics of the state and that is the only reason we would probably move if we did at this point in our life and with the health and we don’t have a social life or anything like that to worry about vibe of a city.

So if you want decent amenities, decent people, good schools, great athletics, central Iowa is still a great choice. If the politics of the state were to change, it would be perfect for a boring life person. Ironically, that seems to be what most people want to get away from which is nice because that leaves fewer people that I have to be around :-)

Another funny note is the MSN link earlier in the thread about the states where people want to move the most, the article below it was the best areas to live when society collapses lol. That might be a timely article to go look at.
 
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Just to hit the flip-side of this discussion...

I don't think its a big deal when youre young, but once you have a family it does get harder. Grandparents want to see their grandkids. Flying is cheap with one economy ticket, but is tougher buying 4 and traveling with all the things kids require. There's a window where its easier for grandparents to travel to you, but after a certain age airports and road trips get hard for them too.

You will spend PTO on trips home rather than actual vacations. And it may not be an enjoyable trip depending on the reason for traveling. It sucks to be really far away when family needs help.

There will be things you miss. For us it's thunderstorms, lightning bugs, cicada drones on summer nights, barbecue (they don't know how to barbecue in the PNW), good pork...
This was our justification for moving back to Iowa from CO. At the time we were heading back all the time for weddings, holidays, etc and not spending much time on fun stuff. Plus having grandparents be able to go to activities and sporting events is worth a lot. I still have regrets about not trying to stay out there, though.
 
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Rural USA in a nutshell. I lived in a very small Iowa town for about 8 years after graduation. Population less than 1000 and maybe 5 different last names. I was always the new person who lived in "the old so-and-so place" and "so-and-so" was like three owners ago.
Moved to a small Iowa town in 2010 because it was kind of half way between where we each had roots. And I'd already lived rural, city, and subdivision, but never IN a small town.

The flip side of this was that people were seriously very curious why someone with no roots in the town would choose to live there. When I'd expand beyond the geographical reason and talk about the nice park, wonderful tree lined streets and how many people seem to take great care of their properties, you'd see the change - you were still kind of an outsider but suddenly you were someone who they would tell stuff to.

When I needed to find an mechanic, electrician, plumber, etc. you'd get a good answer. The divorced mid 30's woman across the street was great. I'd say, "hey we just met so-and-so." Her immediate facial expression told you her opinion, good or bad. It was great, LOL. Then she'd proceed to say something like, "He was in my brother's class in school." or "He married my second cousin."

I actually really liked it. But then the reason to be there evaporated and I moved back closer to my roots. But still have friends there I hang out with a couple times a month.
 
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