How's the comfort in the back seat? Comfortable enough to take a six hour road trip?
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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There is nothing under 12k that isn’t absolute garbage.
Wild. Mine was $29k sticker, spent a couple hours hard balling it down. Most annoying day of my life.
I haven't really done much riding back there yet. Just the 7.5 y/o and she seems to like it.
I did climb around in there before we bought and I will say the headliner is good and high. I'm 6'2" and had plenty of headroom.
We have some family in town for the weekend with dance recital, so I'll get some more adult feedback from hauling them.
I'm 6-5 and pushing 300 lbs, so I take up a lot of space. It could be done, but we'd both be cramped.
yeah a double cab is basically a extended cab with 4 doors instead of the "half doors" the fact the crew cab Colorado still has less legroom is a pretty big deal for some. I sold my quad cab Ram (same thing as a double cab GM basically) because it wouldn't fit a car seat and my wife at the same time.
12k gets you an 8-10 year old vehicle with 100k+ miles. Pretty big sticker shock for me when buying my 16 year old a first car.
I had a 2019 Colorado as a work vehicle. A rear facing child seat required the corresponding front seat to be moved all the way forward. Basically impossible to do behind the driver and have a safe (not to mention comfortable) driving position. Front facing child seat provided relief, but when occupied by a child, it still needed to have the corresponding front seat to be in an uncomfortable position.We have Colorado's for work pool vehicles, and there's no way anybody could sit behind me while driving. Not even my 7 year old.
My Silverado is good for another few years, and I'd consider a Rivian, but i think they'd the same in that department
I currently have a quad cab Ram. Technically "leg room" wise it isn't much better, but realistically it is a ton better because of the higher seating position; you can have the seat closer to the steering column and still have comfortable leg room.
The latest model Colorado (coworkers have them) are worse than the previous body style.
We'll see who's right in 5 years. I'm a big believer in rapid tech advancement in product innovation life-cycle. Whether it be cars, phones, computers, internet, etc. And IMO we're going to see that with EV batteries (and self driving secondarily).
The phone analogy is natural. And it's a reason to buy an EV today, because the core reason of owning the vehicle will still exist in 5 years- getting a person from point A to point B.
But where the phone analogy falls short is a phone is typically a 3-5 year purchase and then people discard. And has a cost around $1000. A car is a 15+ year asset that can easily cost $40k+. So re-sale is a critical component to ownership cost over the span a person uses the car.
I'm an huge optimist battery tech is going to be far better in 5 years, heck maybe 3 years. So as single person, who owns one vehicle. I am willing to wait on buying my first EV. Why invest in a $50k+ asset that might be outdated for my needs in 3-5 years.
I'd love to own an EV today, but my ICE car will get me from point A to B just as well. And when I buy my first EV, no buyers remorse, because I plan on keeping it 10-15 years.
Do you think couples waste more money or something? I don’t understand why you keep referencing single person.
Battery tech will always get better too. In 3-5 years you can just say dang, I better wait 3-5 years more.
As a couple you could make the investment in a 2026 EV today and be happy it's your car for the next 10-15 years. Even after battery tech allowing for 500 mile range and 20 minute recharge times is developed, just make the 2026 EV as your couple's "in-town" car. Charge at home & 300 mile range is zero issue.
As a single car person, I would definitely want to replace my 2026 EV when 2031 EV's have 500/20 performance levels. But I'd have to sell or trade-in a low performance level car whose re-sale value has plunged.
I am not a car guy. I look at cost of ownership and residual value is a huge component.
That's actually why I got a new truck last time around. My youngest needed a vehicle and once we got to looking we were kind of shocked by used car prices. Decided to just give him my Tacoma, had like 80k miles on it but it was going to take at least $15k to get something that wasn't a complete shitbox. He got a truck that should last him until the heat death of the universe if he takes care of it and I got a new Truck out of the deal.
Same. I bought a new car out of college and swore I'd never do it again. 30 years later bought a 4Runner for the gf, nearly new (3k dealer miles) and it is worth same now as it was in 2022. Doubled down with the Corolla Cross, bought new figuring it would hold a ton of value esp considering I put relatively low miles on it. A lot depends on the brand - Toyota being one of the best.
Also, +1 for using "heat death of the universe", we say that too.
My wife got a almost new 4Runner, I think it was a 2017 and she drove it for 5 years but hated the gas milage so she traded for a Rav4 Hybrid. I think we got more for that thing on the trade in than we paid for it new. Trade-in values on those body on frame Toyotas is crazy.
I’ve got another kid taking drivers ed now too so I’ll need to get another vehicle probably in the next year. Might pull the trigger on an EV this time.
That thing would be a blast until you catch a tree branch under water and you're swimming back to shore.
The Rivian R2's Radio Needs Cell Signal The Wilderness Doesn't Have | Carscoops
The new R2 electric SUV skips FM and AM entirely, leaning on a streaming radio service that needs cell coverage to play a single song
www.carscoops.com
This happened to come up from the R2, but other brands are doing the same, Rivian isn't alone. I'm not a huge fan of getting rid of all forms of communication that don't require satellite or cell signals. I know it's unlikely, but situations could arise where this could be at best a boring letdown (middle of nowhere, wilderness, cell/internet/service outage, etc) or at worst an actual danger (adverse weather conditions, natural disaster, emergencies). Radio does still serve a narrow purpose of being a very long-ranged, very reliable safety and information communicator with basically zero other dependencies. Maybe it's going away sooner than I would've expected.
