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cyputz

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We renew late summer, so just call the ticket office then. Had them for 18 years, three different coaching staffs. Row 4.
Have him buy them from you during Angelo “stuff”, and you get them back after.
I really missed ISU wrestling when I gave them up during the final year of Douglas coaching (which was not due to him - just got fed up with a group of fans - we were in row 2. Hawks are obnoxious, we have a couple of those ourselves)
Have some nice friends around the program, but still miss Les, and the Broiler.
 
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It's her side of the story. Accusations of him being gay, living with an older sugar daddy, allegedly the real reason he got booted from tOSU was bc he had a gay only fans account and he didn't clear with compliance. She shared a pic of some bruises on her neck. And then her dad chimes in and it's a lot of rambling.

It's enough that I'm sure Ech wishes he didn't say anything
I'm going to just say the way she conducts herself on social media makes me really take a step back and question everything that comes from her anymore.

Ech has done nothing but be an outstanding person since getting to Ames. Been fortunate to have had multiple conversations with him, watched him interact with fans of all ages and there is nothing more you could want from him.

Edit to note: And this is coming from someone that was not happy at all about Dresser taking a chance on him. I am glad that I was wrong and am man enough to admit that. Heck I even told Ech that I was completely wrong about him and apologized for doing that.
 

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I'm going to just say the way she conducts herself on social media makes me really take a step back and question everything that comes from her anymore.

Ech has done nothing but be an outstanding person since getting to Ames. Been fortunate to have had multiple conversations with him, watched him interact with fans of all ages and there is nothing more you could want from him.

Edit to note: And this is coming from someone that was not happy at all about Dresser taking a chance on him. I am glad that I was wrong and am man enough to admit that. Heck I even told Ech that I was completely wrong about him and apologized for doing that.

Yea airing that dirty laundry wasn’t a good look at all by her.
 

crablegs

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Yea airing that dirty laundry wasn’t a good look at all by her.
So AE, gets to go on social media and say he was innocent. How does that make her look? She goes and defends herself after he started it, and she’s the bad person. No wonder so many women are afraid to speak up.
 

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Yea airing that dirty laundry wasn’t a good look at all by her.

Buddy...lol...he told the world she's a liar. She brought the receipts. It isn't like he was found innocent or the charges were dropped. He was guilty.

Take your nose out of the jock and breathe cleaner air.
 

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So AE, gets to go on social media and say he was innocent. How does that make her look? She goes and defends herself after he started it, and she’s the bad person. No wonder so many women are afraid to speak up.

Considering I didn’t see how he mentioned her at all by name, etc. but now I know who she is. And that AE is possibly gay, has a gay OF, (who cares). Just wasn’t a good look
 

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So AE, gets to go on social media and say he was innocent. How does that make her look? She goes and defends herself after he started it, and she’s the bad person. No wonder so many women are afraid to speak up.
AJs victim did speak up though. Went to court, and she dropped the charges because of receiving death threats from “anonymous” people. I heard that from an OSU staff member. But AE is the bad guy?????
 
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So AE, gets to go on social media and say he was innocent. How does that make her look? She goes and defends herself after he started it, and she’s the bad person. No wonder so many women are afraid to speak up.

You are the last person I will ever give 2 ***** about morals considering the crap you said about a struggling in real life Christian Carroll
 

crablegs

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Did I miss where he mentioned her at all?

I read her posts and was expecting to have seen something from him about her, but couldn’t find a lick.
They kicked me out without the case being resolved, homeless, with no money, and looked at as a criminal. Justice came through. It takes courage to forgive and that’s why I love ISU wrestling. What a program Iowa State and its stuff, after leaving them once, they still believed in my innocence and gave me a chance to show cyclone family what kind of person I am.

Here he is indicating he was unjustly kicked out of OSU but was ultimately innocent. Rubbing it in on his victim.

AJs victim did speak up though. Went to court, and she dropped the charges because of receiving death threats from “anonymous” people. I heard that from an OSU staff member. But AE is the bad guy?????
So, she was intimidated into dropping her case doesn’t that prove my point? But Wikipedia says he pled guilty to a lessor charge. I don’t know the truth because the disposition of the case is not being reported.

@LeadersWifeLife what do you think about the images she posted?
 

crablegs

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You are the last person I will ever give 2 ***** about morals considering the crap you said about a struggling in real life Christian Carroll
Fill me in, what is Carroll dealing with? I haven’t heard anything other than extremely vague statements by a couple posters. What am I to make of that?
 

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They kicked me out without the case being resolved, homeless, with no money, and looked at as a criminal. Justice came through. It takes courage to forgive and that’s why I love ISU wrestling. What a program Iowa State and its stuff, after leaving them once, they still believed in my innocence and gave me a chance to show cyclone family what kind of person I am.

Here he is indicating he was unjustly kicked out of OSU but was ultimately innocent. Rubbing it in on his victim.


So, she was intimidated into dropping her case doesn’t that prove my point? But Wikipedia says he pled guilty to a lessor charge. I don’t know the truth because the disposition of the case is not being reported.

@LeadersWifeLife what do you think about the images she posted?
I don’t have an FB account so I haven’t read any of it.
Listen I have 2 daughters and coach HS girls wrestling. The safety, success and well being of females is a priority to me. What I’m saying is we can’t be hypocrites here and pick and choose which athletes we defend and which we ostracize. I wasn’t ok with AE coming here initially because of his baggage. He has rebuilt his life and been a great student/athlete. I’m not ok with AJ coming here because of his baggage. If he does, he needs to rebuild his life and become a great student/athlete
 

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I don’t have an FB account so I haven’t read any of it.
Listen I have 2 daughters and coach HS girls wrestling. The safety, success and well being of females is a priority to me. What I’m saying is we can’t be hypocrites here and pick and choose which athletes we defend and which we ostracize. I wasn’t ok with AE coming here initially because of his baggage. He has rebuilt his life and been a great student/athlete. I’m not ok with AJ coming here because of his baggage. If he does, he needs to rebuild his life and become a great student/athlete

I agree, I wasn’t either. However I haven’t seen him show up on the police blog yet and overall seems to be carrying himself well and gotten his life together.

That being said what he did was completely wrong and there is never an excuse for it
 

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I don’t have an FB account so I haven’t read any of it.
Listen I have 2 daughters and coach HS girls wrestling. The safety, success and well being of females is a priority to me. What I’m saying is we can’t be hypocrites here and pick and choose which athletes we defend and which we ostracize. I wasn’t ok with AE coming here initially because of his baggage. He has rebuilt his life and been a great student/athlete. I’m not ok with AJ coming here because of his baggage. If he does, he needs to rebuild his life and become a great student/athlete
Got it, so AJ deserves a chance just like Echemendia. I agree.
 

CyCloneRastlinG

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So AE, gets to go on social media and say he was innocent. How does that make her look? She goes and defends herself after he started it, and she’s the bad person. No wonder so many women are afraid to speak up.
Why is she still in a wrestling only group? How many times has Echemendia been talked about or posted in there over the years. And she’s had to see him be talked about. Shes been in that group since 2021. She called the event traumatizing. Why hasn’t she left a wrestling only Facebook group and moved on with her life? The fact she’s in there still just doesn’t add up. Not calling her a liar but she’s trying to do damage years later.
 
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Got it, so AJ deserves a chance just like Echemendia. I agree.
Hey I’m the last person in the world who shouldn’t believe in second chances.
My opinion on the entire matter is this- I’d rather Ferraris be at a different school than ISU. If he does show up, he should be given strict stipulations/short leash for proper behavior. And I’ll trust the staff knows what they’re doing. And I hope I can warm up to it
 

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