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***2026-27 Mens College Basketball Thread***

MeanDean said:
Not arguing your point. I was just wondering, of all the NCAA March Madness winners, which team finished lowest in their conference standings? Might be a good question for @cyclones500. He's good at digging that info up.
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I don't have definite answer, but for teams receiving an at-large, if OU gets a bid, it's probably the lowest finish based on % of conference teams ... 14 seed based on tiebreaker with Texas, so that's 0.875.

As @alarson noted, In 1992, ISU was 6th of 8 (.750) and received at-large.

(This differs from pure W/L percentage)
 
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FriendlySpartan said:
I’d almost be ok with saying you have to finish 500 or above. Won’t ever happen but agree there should be a cut off. When you get destroyed on a regular basis it has to matter. Another reason net is so bad, whatever metrics are used need to take into account when the wins/losses happen
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STFU Dicky Vitale or Johnny will rise from his grave to kick your ass again and then haunt you forever.
 
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alarson said:
Conference record isn't a tournament factor though. Arguably it shouldn't be. Teams shouldn't be punished for being in a more demanding conference.

Separating out conference record is a pretty poor way of doing things, just as is separating out NCSOS.
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And in uneven scheduling not all conference schedules are created equal.

And this is not an endorsement of Oklahoma or Texas.
 
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Genius move by Hoiberg last year to get the interim AD and interim Prez to tack on 2 years and add more $$ to his deal. If he can keep his job he's got $18m coming his way the next four years lol.
 
cyclones500 said:
I don't have definite answer, but for teams receiving an at-large, if OU gets a bid, it's probably the lowest finish based on % of conference teams ... 14 seed based on tiebreaker with Texas, so that's 0.875.

As @alarson noted, In 1992, ISU was 6th of 8 (.750) and received at-large.

(This differs from pure W/L percentage)
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Crazy thing is we’ve twice gotten in the tournament with 17 wins (1992 team had 3 non division 1 wins). 1989 team I believe went in at 17-11.

Always funny with that 1989 team is they played 2 games in the middle of December in Tokyo vs Southern Miss and Bradley. I believe they also played an exhibition but the name escapes me.
 
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OU is like us in TJ's first year. Undefeated noncon and then take some lumps in a tough conference.

We went 7-11 in the b12 and made it in.

And OU beat Arizona, Louisville, Georgia Tech, Okla State, and Michigan - that's pretty decent scheduling.
 
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brokenloginagain said:
OU is like us in TJ's first year. Undefeated noncon and then take some lumps in a tough conference.

We went 7-11 in the b12 and made it in.

And OU beat Arizona, Louisville, Georgia Tech, Okla State, and Michigan - that's pretty decent scheduling.
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Watch it. You’ll be branded a Sooner fan by pillocks on here
 
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brokenloginagain said:
OU is like us in TJ's first year. Undefeated noncon and then take some lumps in a tough conference.

We went 7-11 in the b12 and made it in.

And OU beat Arizona, Louisville, Georgia Tech, Okla State, and Michigan - that's pretty decent scheduling.
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That was different though because it was us doing it. Also we got erased in the Big XII’s that year too.

The committee showed us in particular last year that a strong non con will be rewarded.
 
Cyballzz said:
Crazy thing is we’ve twice gotten in the tournament with 17 wins (1992 team had 3 non division 1 wins). 1989 team I believe went in at 17-11.

Always funny with that 1989 team is they played 2 games in the middle of December in Tokyo vs Southern Miss and Bradley. I believe they also played an exhibition but the name escapes me.
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Good pull(s)

I did not realize those 3 non-D1 games in 1991-92

I think they were:
Nebraska-Omaha (then in DII North Central Conference)
American University-Puerto Rico
Morningside

The other 1988-89, yes, entered tournament at 17-11 (10 seed) and (again, I hadn't remembered, had to check) "Phenix NCAA Ball Tournament" in Tokyo

Two in-season exhibitions that season (another detail I was unaware):
* Dec. 16 vs. Mitzubishi Electric Corp. (also in Tokyo!) .. won by 4
* Jan. 17 vs. good ol' Marathon Oil (at Hilton) .. won by 6
 
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cyclones500 said:
Good pull(s)

I did not realize those 3 non-D1 games in 1991-92

I think they were:
Nebraska-Omaha (then in DII North Central Conference)
American University-Puerto Rico
Morningside

The other 1988-89, yes, entered tournament at 17-11 (10 seed) and (again, I hadn't remembered, had to check) "Phenix NCAA Ball Tournament" in Tokyo

Two in-season exhibitions that season (another detail I was unaware):
* Dec. 16 vs. Mitzubishi Electric Corp. (also in Tokyo!) .. won by 4
* Jan. 17 vs. good ol' Marathon Oil (at Hilton) .. won by 6
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Damn Marathon Oil is a blast from the past.
 
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Cyclonepride said:
Nebraska just isn't going to do better. It's weird, but their ceiling seems to be almost relevant.
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You would think it possible and on par with building a respectable football program at ISU, which took several coaches over the last 3 decades to elevate it. Maybe Hoiberg is just their Chizik or Rhoads.
 
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I thought the big 12 awards came out today. Haven’t they typically released them on the Sunday evening following the seasons conclusion?
 
cyclones500 said:
I don't have definite answer, but for teams receiving an at-large, if OU gets a bid, it's probably the lowest finish based on % of conference teams ... 14 seed based on tiebreaker with Texas, so that's 0.875.

As @alarson noted, In 1992, ISU was 6th of 8 (.750) and received at-large.

(This differs from pure W/L percentage)
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I guess I didn't phrase my question well. I meant of all the NCAA Championship teams, that actually won the tournament, which team finished lowest in their conference during the regular season. Probably would coincide with a lower seeded team at the beginning of the tournament. Maybe NC State in 1983?

My thought being if a team didn't finish above 4 or 5 (or whatever the number is) teams in your conference you don't win the whole enchilada.
 
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Best college basketball team in Minnesota isn’t the gophers anymore . . .

And it was the only div 1 basketball school in the state until 2020
 
MeanDean said:
I guess I didn't phrase my question well. I meant of all the NCAA Championship teams, that actually won the tournament, which team finished lowest in their conference during the regular season. Probably would coincide with a lower seeded team at the beginning of the tournament. Maybe NC State in 1983?

My thought being if a team didn't finish above 4 or 5 (or whatever the number is) teams in your conference you don't win the whole enchilada.
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Ah, thanks for clarification. I wondered I was misinterpreting.

I'd have to look into that. UConn finished 9th seed (of 16) in Big East in 2011 and went on to win the national title.

That probably is among the lowest league finishers to do it, but only one that comes to mind immediately.

Perhaps someone else can find others before I do.

(UConn got 9th seed in BET by tiebreaker over Villanova and Marquette, each finished 9-9).
 
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