RIP Gene Hackman

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Nailed that but I wonder if he was so far gone with the Alzheimer’s that he couldn’t leave the house or call anyone or did he choose to stay and go out his way.
My guess is he was incapable of taking his meds with her gone. She may have been getting them for him when she died. Then the heart issue without meds was too much.
 

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My guess is he was incapable of taking his meds with her gone. She may have been getting them for him when she died. Then the heart issue without meds was too much.
But he spent a week in the house with her in it dead. Was his mind so far gone he didn’t notice? Couldn’t communicate or get out of the house? Or did he decide he was just going to live out his last days in his own home and go out on his terms. We may never know and it’s a very sad ending either way.
 

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But he spent a week in the house with her in it dead. Was his mind so far gone he didn’t notice? Couldn’t communicate or get out of the house? Or did he decide he was just going to live out his last days in his own home and go out on his terms. We may never know and it’s a very sad ending either way.
Advanced Alzheimers I'm going with didn't notice, but I'm no expert.
 

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the dog in the crate had to be whining while the wife so sick. Most certainly at some point. I've no experience with dementia, but you'd have to almost a vegetable to not recognize that call for help.

Hackman's pacemaker stopped, but no one ever went to check on that? i mean it usually isnt good if one's pacemaker stops. If Hackman was in the bad a shape, where was home nursing? the people who cleaned his house?

he likely needed to have a home health person there to assist him. he had money. not sure what the wife was thinking.
 

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But he spent a week in the house with her in it dead. Was his mind so far gone he didn’t notice? Couldn’t communicate or get out of the house? Or did he decide he was just going to live out his last days in his own home and go out on his terms. We may never know and it’s a very sad ending either way.
Could've been either. Alzheimers is awful.
 

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the dog in the crate had to be whining while the wife so sick. Most certainly at some point. I've no experience with dementia, but you'd have to almost a vegetable to not recognize that call for help.

Hackman's pacemaker stopped, but no one ever went to check on that? i mean it usually isnt good if one's pacemaker stops. If Hackman was in the bad a shape, where was home nursing? the people who cleaned his house?

he likely needed to have a home health person there to assist him. he had money. not sure what the wife was thinking.
My dad has a pacemaker pretty sure it doesn't have any daily external monitoring.
I certainly could be wrong though.
 
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My question, and sorry if it's already been mentioned, is where in the #### where his kids?
Yeah, we’re in our 60’s but pretty sure the boys coordinate cause at least one of them texts me every day and then text husband if I don’t respond in a couple of hours
 
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My dad has a pacemaker pretty sure it doesn't have any daily external monitoring.
I certainly could be wrong though.
Some of them have remote monitoring but the old neighbor I check on unplugs hers to vacuum the bedroom and forgets to plug it in again
 
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My question, and sorry if it's already been mentioned, is where in the #### where his kids?
Who knows every family is different. I know I've kind of taken the lead on my folks, but I let my sisters know if I'm gone so they can step up their phone calls. My folks are OK, but it's good to keep a eye on them.
 
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Who knows every family is different. I know I've kind of taken the lead on my folks, but I let my sisters know if I'm gone so they can step up their phone calls. My folks are OK, but it's good to keep an eye on them.
It feels like a little more contact with a 95 yo with Alzheimer’s would be in order. I suppose they are about the same age as the wife though and figured she had it under control
 
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My dad has a pacemaker pretty sure it doesn't have any daily external monitoring.
I certainly could be wrong though.
I have a pacemaker and it is set up with a remote monitor that can do ekgs and gets a lot of info remotely. It does have a range however. But at 2 am every night, it takes readings and issues alerts if something is amiss.
 
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When I was a kid (mid 60s-early 70s) we had an ear corn crib. Basically thick fence wire walls with a concrete floor and a metal roof. We kept ear corn over the winter and would incrementally take pick-up truck loads to the local elevator the next summer. The further you got down in to the crib the more rat and mice nests you'd encounter. Full of urine and you'd put your pants legs inside your clodhoppers so the critters wouldn't run up your pant leg. I must have inhaled a ****-pot full of mice and rat feces dust every year for 10-12 years.

Not sure if the varieties we had back then were carriers, but nobody gave it a moment's thought at the time.
 

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When I was a kid (mid 60s-early 70s) we had an ear corn crib. Basically thick fence wire walls with a concrete floor and a metal roof. We kept ear corn over the winter and would incrementally take pick-up truck loads to the local elevator the next summer. The further you got down in to the crib the more rat and mice nests you'd encounter. Full of urine and you'd put your pants legs inside your clodhoppers so the critters wouldn't run up your pant leg. I must have inhaled a ****-pot full of mice and rat feces dust every year for 10-12 years.

Not sure if the varieties we had back then were carriers, but nobody gave it a moment's thought at the time.
Shelled a lot of ear corn in my day. We used twine to tie our pant legs shut. Couple of places there were so many mice and rats the pile of ear corn moved.
 
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If he had advanced Alzheimer's and heart issues, she may have been responsible for making sure he took his heart meds. With her passing, he most likely hadn't take his medication leading to the heart episode that took his life.
This my fear for my grandma. She has alzheimers to the point she doesn't remember me. Last Christmas she asked my uncle a dozen times who I was. My grandpa is too stubborn to put her in an assisted living home. My mom goes over multiple times a week so that helps.
 
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the dog in the crate had to be whining while the wife so sick. Most certainly at some point. I've no experience with dementia, but you'd have to almost a vegetable to not recognize that call for help.

Hackman's pacemaker stopped, but no one ever went to check on that? i mean it usually isnt good if one's pacemaker stops. If Hackman was in the bad a shape, where was home nursing? the people who cleaned his house?

he likely needed to have a home health person there to assist him. he had money. not sure what the wife was thinking.
I am sure his wife filled the roll of home health person. With the age difference, my guess she felt she could manage his care needs.

Also, many older people take their independence seriously. Some out of choice and others because family support system isn't local. Or close. I read that her mom's caregiver said she hadn't talked to the mom in a few months.
 

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Does it present like regular flu? Could you have it bad enough to die, but not bad enough to go to the doctor? It's quite possible too, that she had some dementia going on as well, which might explain why she didn't seek treatment.
Still seems strange to me that if she started feeling bad and knowing he wasn't capable of helping her in his state that she would have a little time to call for help before she died.
 

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