Coach Nate Schmidt

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What on earth is Jefferson doing out there? He is a good passer but he isn't good enough handling the ball to cut through the whole defense. Our ball handling has been awful all year and its really starting to bite us as teams get more tape and the long season settles in. Still a very good team but they were approaching the Fizer/Tinsely trajectory up until WVU and 'Mom got hurt.
 

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I don’t think this gets talked enough about to be honest. He’s supposedly our offensive guru. But for the most part this season last few seasons our offense has looked like complete garbage as in sets and out of bounds plays. Schmidt is in full control in the huddle when drawing up the offense. I trust TJ with all my soul, but when’s enough enough for certain assistants? I’m not even trying to start ****, but it’s a valid question and discussion.
Absolute nonsense. With our full roster we are a top 10 offense. And 1 loss to Auburn
 

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Coach Nate isn’t impressive, we’re technically top 25 this year but I’d attribute that more to having some guys who can flat out score. Our half court offense is usually really bad and just isolations. We need a real offensive coach to take a true next step
 

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We are still top 25 offense per kenpom so not bad.

That's a full season metric though.

I don't have kenpom sub so I don't know if you can look up the same there, but if you look at Torvik since the Arizona game, we're playing like the #43 team (so basically a bubble team on that stretch) and playing like the #76 rated offense. TO%? 344. Atrocious.
 

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How often does a team make it through a season with a full roster? Need to be able to adapt and make adjustments
Ok coach K. We almost beat a top 5 Houston team with top 2 scorers out! Not like they haven’t made adjustments. Guys were just off tonight good grief people get a grip. Let’s fire coaches that makes sense
 

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I know the analytics are still good but the difference between our highs and lows feels unacceptable. Also dipping defensively doesn’t give us the wiggle room to struggle on offense. We have the Gilbert excuse which is legit, but against OSU maybe not so much.
 
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There isn't enough movement off the ball, tj says this constantly. But it never has changed. It's all ball screen and kick. We don't really play matchups a ton, some but not much other than whatever we get off the ball screen. Results in a lot of standing from 2 guys. Don't really run many sets when we need a hoop. Our actions are really common and vanilla. Just really easy to guard as the season goes on.

It is what it is. Not going to change.
 

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How often does a team make it through a season with a full roster? Need to be able to adapt and make adjustments
Most the time. Who can you think of being out a long time besides Hali for the 2nd half of the season? Niang NCAA broken foot? If it was just CuJo 1 game and Keshon 2 games you'd have a point. This isn't foosball.
 
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I know the analytics are still good but the difference between our highs and lows feels unacceptable. Also dipping defensively doesn’t give us the wiggle room to struggle on offense. We have the Gilbert excuse which is legit, but against OSU maybe not so much.
Does anybody know if any of the analytic sites have a momentum metric or something to show a team’s trend? We were playing like a final four contender until the very beginning of big 12 play, but since then I would bet we are kind of middle of the road.
 
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There isn't enough movement off the ball, tj says this constantly. But it never has changed. It's all ball screen and kick. We don't really play matchups a ton, some but not much other than whatever we get off the ball screen. Results in a lot of standing from 2 guys. Don't really run many sets when we need a hoop. Our actions are really common and vanilla. Just really easy to guard as the season goes on.

It is what it is. Not going to change.
You should definitely email TJ and let him know you have their offensive “problems” figured out and maybe he will fire Schmidt and hire you
 

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Does anybody know if any of the analytic sites have a momentum metric or something to show a team’s trend? We were playing like a final four contender until the very beginning of big 12 play, but since then I would bet we are kind of middle of the road.
There is, but they don't matter. KSU was #1 in the country in their run, and we were like top 5 full strength after Milan came back. Couldn't tell you how to find it though, just reporting what I read.
 

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That's a full season metric though.

I don't have kenpom sub so I don't know if you can look up the same there, but if you look at Torvik since the Arizona game, we're playing like the #43 team (so basically a bubble team on that stretch) and playing like the #76 rated offense. TO%? 344. Atrocious.
No question about it that our offensive kenpom numbers have been on the slide last few weeks from top 10 to top 25.

How much of that is Milan missing games? How much is due to coaching? How much is due to other teams figuring out our players tendencies and our offensive sets? Do we have enough talent to overcome that? Is it coaches fault players compete who can have more unforced dumb TOs? I guess maybe because they recruited those players.
 

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This game was painful because it was a combination of the small things that win close games, that we didn't do and aren't coaches. Like:
  • 12-20 from free throws, plus a couple were front-ends.
  • We committed 18 turnovers and something like 7 on our first 10 possessions. Jefferson had 7.
  • I believe we gave up 10 offensive rebounds in the first half.
Sure coaches matter, but at some point the players have to make plays and execute. Other crazy stats that indicate we were lethargic all night:
  • Points off turnovers: OSU 24 vs. ISU 10
  • Fast break points: OSU 22 vs. ISU 9
  • Paint Points: OSU 36 vs. ISU 28 (it was OSU 18 vs. ISU 6 in the 1st Half.
The reality, this is a 6-6 team since the WVU loss. But I agree with the OP that opposing teams have figured a way to defend against our dribble dominant offense, where much of the scoring action initiates around the top of the key.
We’re a Sweet 16 team. Again.
 

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Ok coach K. We almost beat a top 5 Houston team with top 2 scorers out! Not like they haven’t made adjustments. Guys were just off tonight good grief people get a grip. Let’s fire coaches that makes sense
We did but that was Saturday. Tonight, we had the same effort as we did against K State. It’s less about adjustments and more about effort which is what is supposed to be the culture of this team.
There was a series where we missed a shot and an OSU guy served the rebound from going out of bounds and then reestablished and got the ball while we had no one go after it. Then we got outworked on the offensive glass on their possession. Those are plays that we work harder than other teams to win games while getting more than our share of 50/50 balls but against K State and OKie State we didn’t work harder than they did.
 
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