In my not so smart opinion as far as who has the frame that could carry it well it would be Casey. Ech can't. Cody at 57 is just perfect.
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Because he has, lol. But seriously, it looks like he could maybe have two years left if he gets a medical this year. He got to Mizzou as a freshman for the '20-'21 season, so he could get a covid year too.
No, he only has 1 year left to participate. It was going to be this year, his Covid year, but he also had a redshirt available and he's using it this season. Put another way, he's already participated in 4 NCAAs. There's no scenario where a guy can compete in 6.
There you go, that's right. My eyes skipped over the second 'freshman' season listed on his bio. He's not leaving Mizzou.
Maybe if you follow the team you would know that he was injured all freshman year. Had one or two top 25 wins while giving Carr a breather last year before getting injured again last year. Had a good off-season and you could tell he was starting to get more confident that and was holding his own against IA until the injury occurred which tells you how tough he is to finish the match.
The thing that worries me is will he be able to train most or all of the offseason. Very hard to make the improvements needed when dealing with significant time away from wrestling.
He's a young dude who had some solid wins last year sitting behind Carr (Thomson 3x, Bianchi, Brenner), he was a lot better against Garvin than a box score would indicate, he wrestled Caliendo tough after blowing his knee out mid-match, the staff is high on him. Plenty of reasons to like him and sure seems to be a lot like the Frost boys in terms of toughness, development path, etc.
I think, if he didn't get hurt, he'd be ranked in the top 15-20. Hell he beat #19 last year 4-0, 12-4 and 19-3. So that's not even a reach to say he's capable of that.
I do follow the team. I don’t see anything remarkable as far as wins. Hence my question. A couple of wins over guys who made no noise at the NCAAs and “looked good losing” isn’t the kind of answer I was looking for.
So if you are injured and have a thin resume there is no reason anyone should expect that wrestler to be any good. Gotch you. I assume you would say the same thing for Angelo as his only quality win is over Bockman who has not made noise at NCAA.
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Euton reminds me a lot of the Frost brothers, I'm not in the room like some of the posters on here, but from what I've seen when he does wrestle, he's very fundamentally sound, doesn't stop moving forward, and has a very good gas tank
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spot on. This dude was prolly hating on Evan after his True freshman year. Euton is tough, and he does everything right. Plus he looks like a serial killer, which I like.
@NEICyFan is right. If anyone thinks we need a transfer at 74, then they should be asking for one at 65 too.
There is a lot of hope and possibilities from Euton, but results are what they are. MJ is a far more proven commodity than Euton.
Honestly, I’m fine with rolling Euton and MJ back out again next year. I think they’re both top 20 guys with potential to be higher. If a proven AA is ready to come in, then take them, but I wouldn’t consider 65 or 74 to be “needs”.
84 is a big time question to me in addition to 97. What has Bartelt done to make anyone think he’s going to be an answer? Serious question.
There is a lot of hope and possibilities from Euton, but results are what they are. MJ is a far more proven commodity than Euton.
Honestly, I’m fine with rolling Euton and MJ back out again next year. I think they’re both top 20 guys with potential to be higher. If a proven AA is ready to come in, then take them, but I wouldn’t consider 65 or 74 to be “needs”.
84 is a big time question to me in addition to 97. What has Bartelt done to make anyone think he’s going to be an answer? Serious question.
I wouldn't mind a grad transfer or someone at 184 to give Bartelt another year to adjust. I think Bartelt showed potential and athleticism in his matches at 197, but was just small. I am more confident in him being a top 20ish guy at 184 vs anyone currently at 197 being top 20.
Agree. If you’re rating need weights, it should look like this order.
97
84
65
74
25
The other weights we have a proven AA caliber wrestler. 25 I think we all expect Castillo to be ready right away, but that is still tbd.
I think the bigger question is, "Do you have the money to bring in a proven commodity?"
Dresser likes to take care of his roster. I have to think that Frost Boys, Ech, Casey, Paniro, Chittum, Bartelt, Yonger are getting a decent NIL. I have no idea what decent is, naturally think Casey, Yonger, Ech and E Frost are higher than the others. Not sure if Meza and Castillo are/will get much of an NIL.
So I think sometimes you have to trust that Bartelt and or Tate Naak will get it done at 184. Think 197, then 165-174 would be next, but at least a tier lower.
And if Meza can make 125 again, I think he continues to develop
I might be the head member of the Meza fan club but I really think there is a top 10 level guy in him. He’s a gamer and from everything I’ve heard he takes it serious both on and off the mat. His downfall this year was being a freshman making freshman mistakes.
I think in general I agree, but I think a few things make me put 174 above 165 and 184.
1. Euton beat gaitan head to head for the spot. Not always indicative of future performance outside the room but it’s significant.
2. Gaitan showed a willingness and desire to be 165 this year by trying to win that spot. This makes sense to me because he seems like a small 174 pounder.
For these these reasons I think getting a 174 pounder and making gaitan and euton duke it out at 165 works out better team wise than getting a 165. Some of this is largely moot because it’s not like we always have a perfect choice at every weight, some of this is likely determined by who is interested and all that.
184 for me is pure hunch, I think Bartelt is higher potential than any other person we have at 165-197 right now and so that’s why I put it lower. Lots of uncertainty with young guys though.
