Will we be a 1-6 seed?

[heitclone]

This is partly true, TJ and the staff seem to have one way to play, if that gets disrupted, they don't really change anything, they just keep grinding the same way. I don't think it's nil, I think it's just how they are as a staff. They have many strengths, I hope we keep them together as long as possible but making adjustments and the Xs and Os side of coaching on the fly aren't things they've shown to at well.

3/4 years here, TJ teams have hit a wall in the middle of conference play. Teams changing the way they play us and us not adjusting play a factor in that. Injuries and personnel issues can impact that but it makes no sense to continue playing the same way when you're not the same team.

 

[ClubCy]

Unless they collapse I can't see them falling all the way down to the 6-8 seed line. 2-5 seems like the most realistic outcome and maybe it's blind faith in a group that has produced WAYYYY more good than bad the last two years but I'm betting strongly on 2 seed.

We were still projected as a #1 seed or a high 2 just yesterday. 2 seed is still the most likely.

Anyone who think we fall to 6-8 deserves to get dumbed and shamed for it. We would have to lose out for that to even be a consideration.

 

[Tailg8er]

How about everybody giving the OP a dumb? Why?

Because it was a dumb post.

Hope this helps!

 

[PizzaTheHutt]

Fans are just adjusting expectations to the "in-between" you're describing. That's a 3-4 seed.

It's still a good season, but a 3-4 (notably worse than last year) is a tough pill to swallow when fans were looking at a 1 seed, potential conference championship, and talking about this team being ISU's best. People are going to overreact.

The remainder of our schedule really is favorable. 7-2 the rest of the regular season is realistic. Especially with Milan coming back.

In that case we are still looking at a 24-7 season and a 2 seed similar to last year. I personally care more about how we’re playing in March vs what seed we get. If we can make a deeper run nobody is going to care about the number next to our name.

Time will tell. We’ll just have to wait and see.

 

[CascadeClone]

I’m glad you have more confidence in this team than me. Right now everything has gone horribly wrong since that game tying 60 foot shot. By horribly wrong, I mean horribly, horribly, horribly wrong. They’re not even playing good defense anymore in addition to an offense that can’t run a play.

I agree they are playing absolutely terrible right now.

But they played really really well earlier. It's more likely they return to good form than continue to be dreadful. Unless there's some hidden BDJ type issues going on, which there is absolutely no sign or even rumor of such.

 

[CoachHines3]

How about everybody giving the OP a dumb? Why?

one time karl malone called me a dumb kid when i saw him in the bahamas because i was trying to get a picture of him with me without him knowing.

 

[RagingCloner]

one time karl malone called me a dumb kid when i saw him in the bahamas because i was trying to get a picture of him with me without him knowing.

I bet he was willing to take pictures with Mom

 

[madguy30]

This is partly true, TJ and the staff seem to have one way to play, if that gets disrupted, they don't really change anything, they just keep grinding the same way. I don't think it's nil, I think it's just how they are as a staff. They have many strengths, I hope we keep them together as long as possible but making adjustments and the Xs and Os side of coaching on the fly aren't things they've shown to at well.

3/4 years here, TJ teams have hit a wall in the middle of conference play. Teams changing the way they play us and us not adjusting play a factor in that. Injuries and personnel issues can impact that but it makes no sense to continue playing the same way when you're not the same team.

What do you propose they do with the players available that's going to be effective over a 40 minute game, or multiple games?

 

[fsanford]

I predict 2-7 the rest of the way. Win against TCU and Colorado, lose every other game

I am stunned. Mr Hyperbole strikes again
At least you provide comedy relief. Keep at it

 

[KennyPratt42]

We were still projected as a #1 seed or a high 2 just yesterday. 2 seed is still the most likely.

Anyone who think we fall to 6-8 deserves to get dumbed and shamed for it. We would have to lose out for that to even be a consideration.

I know it was hyperbole, but if we lose out we will miss the tournament. Given what we have remaining, if we lose 5 more regular season games we are likely sitting in that 6 to 7 range.

Our resume is right in the middle of 3 seed territory after last night. Prior to the game we were low 2 seed territory. Both based on metrics and numerical resumes, the projected brackets always lag quite a bit because bracketologists only update them so often.

 

[Bo Darville]

The remainder of our schedule really is favorable. 7-2 the rest of the regular season is realistic. Especially with Milan coming back.

In that case we are still looking at a 24-7 season and a 2 seed similar to last year. I personally care more about how we’re playing in March vs what seed we get. If we can make a deeper run nobody is going to care about the number next to our name.

Time will tell. We’ll just have to wait and see.

I'd argue that 7-2 is close to best case. Given Houston is a likely loss, that would necessarily involve winning at KSU, at UCF, or beating AZ at home. I wouldn't be remotely surprised by three more losses given how we're playing.

24-7 would put us exactly the same as last year. Our OOC resume was worse last year, but that's offset by an inferior conference performance, with worse losses, even assuming 7-2 the rest of the way.

Last year we were the lowest 2 seed.

Of course we could "get hot" and make a run as a 3 or 4 seed. But most of our fanbase isn't going to grasp the significance of the next stretch of games until we see the bracket come out in March and it's evident exactly what a 3/4 has to do to make a deep run.

It's not "emotional" or "chicken little" to say that our chances of a special season are dwindling. Can still turn it around, but it's concerning.

 

[fsanford]

I'd argue that 7-2 is close to best case. Given Houston is a likely loss, that would necessarily involve winning at KSU, at UCF, or beating AZ at home. I wouldn't be remotely surprised by three more losses given how we're playing.

24-7 would put us exactly the same as last year. Our OOC resume was worse last year, but that's offset by an inferior conference performance, with worse losses, even assuming 7-2 the rest of the way.

Last year we were the lowest 2 seed.

Of course we could "get hot" and make a run as a 3 or 4 seed. But most of our fanbase isn't going to grasp the significance of the next stretch of games until we see the bracket come out in March and it's evident exactly what a 3/4 has to do to make a deep run.

It's not "emotional" or "chicken little" to say that our chances of a special season are dwindling. Can still turn it around, but it's concerning.

so maybe best to relax and see how things turn out since it could be a bit of a rollercoaster no doubt

 

[not-the-manager]

They will be a 2-4 seed. They will not make the Final Four. We will wonder “forever” what could’ve been had Mom not gotten injured, when I’m inclined to think they would’ve hit the annual Otz slump regardless. In that alternate timeline maybe they still could’ve hung onto a 1 seed, but we’ll never know. not a doomer, have just accepted how much the odds are now against them. think Hines is probably right by the way, it’s sort of funny we (me included) keep praying for Heise to shoot more when he and Chatfield were never meant to be 10-a-game guys. I don’t think Otz’s staff sucks, they built around the scorers they know are reliable. ISU never gonna have Kansas’ NIL, such is life

 

[ClubCy]

I know it was hyperbole, but if we lose out we will miss the tournament. Given what we have remaining, if we lose 5 more regular season games we are likely sitting in that 6 to 7 range.

Our resume is right in the middle of 3 seed territory after last night. Prior to the game we were low 2 seed territory. Both based on metrics and numerical resumes, the projected brackets always lag quite a bit because bracketologists only update them so often.

And what if we don’t lose 5 more games? We can play ifs and but maybe I’m in the minority that I have seen us play really good basketball and there is no reason to think they can’t find that again. Maybe I am an optimist.

These conversations remind me of when the football team lost two in a row in November. After the Kansas game everyone had given up on 10 wins and a conference championship. Then the team went on another run and some other teams fell and we won 11 games and played for an opportunity for a conference championship.

So tl;dr

I don’t see why everyone has given up on the season. We can turn it around and probably will. Just like football season.

 

[ClubCy]

They will be a 2-4 seed. They will not make the Final Four. We will wonder “forever” what could’ve been had Mom not gotten injured, when I’m inclined to think they would’ve hit the annual Otz slump regardless. In that alternate timeline maybe they still could’ve hung onto a 1 seed, but we’ll never know. not a doomer, have just accepted how much the odds are now against them. think Hines is probably right by the way, it’s sort of funny we (me included) keep praying for Heise to shoot more when he and Chatfield were never meant to be 10-a-game guys. I don’t think Otz’s staff sucks, they built around the scorers they know are reliable. ISU never gonna have Kansas’ NIL, such is life

Why can’t they make a final four?

 

[jcyclonee]

Sometimes I wonder how my wife can be so entertained by all the drama in the reality shows that she watches. Then I realize that I have CF after a loss.

 

[madguy30]

Sometimes I wonder how my wife can be so entertained by all the drama in the reality shows that she watches. Then I realize that I have CF after a loss.

Post-loss seems way calmer and reasonable than during the game.

In-game is intense.

 

[Cyched]

Back in January 2023 UConn had a stretch where they lost 6 of 8. Here’s hoping for a similar outcome.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%9323_UConn_Huskies_men%2527s_basketball_team

 

[jcyclonee]

Post-loss seems way calmer and reasonable than during the game.

In-game is intense.

This makes me curious if I should keep on an eye on the in-game stuff for entertainment. Probably not because I prefer to use my hands for drinking during the games instead of typing. I guess I could get one of those drinking hats with the curly straws.

 

[ClubCy]

This makes me curious if I should keep on an eye on the in-game stuff for entertainment. Probably not because I prefer to use my hands for drinking during the games instead of typing. I guess I could get one of those drinking hats with the curly straws.

It’s pretty entertaining until it’s not.