Released march 20, 2023 for last cycle
Iowa High School BEDS count 24-25
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Will get the classifications first. I think schools will have an idea who is in their district around them due to trying to set up non cons.
I believe the state took over all scheduling but the schools can request games if they aren't in district.
I may be off on that but I'm pretty sure.
The schools will be informed in March of their district classification, and then they will send to the state a list of schools that they want to play in non district football. Schedules will be out some time in April. For a school like Davis Co, that list would be Centerville and Albia for sure, and those two schools will also have DC and the other school.
Here is a link to the 23/24 numbers.
www.iahsaa.org
Here is a link to the 23/24 numbers.
Classifications: Football | IHSAA
Classifications: FOOTBALL School enrollment numbers from each year inform the following school year’s classifications for IHSAA sanctioned sports. For football only, these numbers are used for two-year cycles. Enrollment numbers are provided by the Basic Educational Data Survey (BEDS) from the...
www.iahsaa.org
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This is exactly right and the part that was glossed over in my post. If you play a sport you can get in. I know this for a fact. Simple coaches request to the AD and they take it from there.
Looking over the BEDS number and then the discount from free and reduce lunch numbers is really having a huge effect on these numbers, and I mean its just not the metro schools in the state.
Sorry, this is wrong. It actually does matter if they are growing. Often a district will say that our ideal grade size or class size is ____. Then they close open enrollment for that grade at a set number so they still have room for move-in residents. So some grades in that district that are smaller may have an allotment for open enrollment while larger grades in that district do not. Typically isn’t district-wide yes or no decision but grade by grade.
Let’s say your district says that 25 kids per class is ideal. Once you get to that number (or maybe a district sets it slightly below at 23 or 24), they close open enrollment. So if I have 4 sections of 4th grade, that number is 100 (25x4). If, because of move ins, 4th grade has 110 kids, they don’t have any open enrollment. Now if the school adds a 5th section to that grade to lower class sizes, they would have 15 spots available for open enrollment (25x5).
There’s no way a growing district has no limits on open enrollment. First, they have to constantly be hiring teachers to accommodate, which would destroy their budget - keep in mind, schools in Iowa are paid a year behind. Their budget this year is based on their enrollment last October. They simply wouldn’t have the spending authority to keep hiring teachers for unfettered growth. They’d be stuck to whatever the formula gives them from a year ago.
Even if they could, they’d run out of classrooms too fast. There are requirements on debt loads that districts can carry which limits their bonding capacity. Even if they could pass a bond every year (which they can’t) it would still take 2 years from design to completion to use the space. So you could not put up buildings fast enough.
Sports generally have nothing to do with it for a public school because those kids have to come for school too. A school would have to have a procedure or system to determine who gets in or not. If they had some magical carve out for athletes, they’d get sued and lose. Parents can request records for that sort of thing. I think schools can have a separate and tighter open enrollment matrix for special education because of the higher needs and level of programming existing in a district. But there is no way they allow some kids for athletics and say no to others. Not even a wink and a nod to get someone in. Again, if they don’t follow their procedure, they’d get sued by someone who didn’t get in and lose.
So if Johnston had 6 kids who were open enrolled on their soccer team, they happened to have space for them in school. If they are growing, they must have added teachers which then freed up space.
I’d be shocked if this happened in a public school. The economics don’t work that allows any athlete to come. Also, they’d get sued.
I feel like maybe the coach was touting some sort of influence he/she doesn’t really have. Public schools cannot make exceptions for sports.
If a student got in, that school had space for that grade level.
Next thing we know Knoxville will be throwing their weight around paying NIL money to PCM transfers to field an actual team.
I'd say in smaller districts kids/families 100% are moving for sports. The district can probably get away with it because they're not experiencing many actual move ins. These families can say all they want that it's for other reasons than sports, but when a good athlete is leaving a district with poor athletic performance and magically showing up on a competitive sports team, it's not a coincidence. I'll pick on them a little, but Aplington Parkersburg pulling two African American kids out of East Waterloo and Cedar Rapids a year ago to play basketball and using the excuse of "they came for a better life situation" is something. Crazy how they just happened to be good basketball players....
Old enough to party! They need to do a little better recruiting if they want to even win the NCC
Actually 3 of their 4 recruits got first and one didn’t wrestle. I’m sure they will add more next year. Depends if dr Dan starts giving jobs and housing this time.
KIds transfer from smaller schools to larger schools for a variety of reasons. Some are pissed at the school district or a teacher, some leave because they work in the other town and its easier to have them in school where they work. Others leave for better sports programs, there is not just one reason.
Its depressing for the school that lost those athletes, and the team mates that they left behind.
When I was teaching at Harmony, I was talking to another coach, he stated he had coached the 5th and 6th boys teams a few years before. Off that team, 2 went to Holy Trinity, 1 was now the best athlete at Van Buren in his class and another was a very good player at Central Lee. So 4 of the five starters from the team he had were playing for rival schools, and this was 7 years before Harmony closed its doors.
Bottom line are parents are going to do what they think is best for their kid, even if the kid does not want to leave their friends and move.
Its depressing for the school that lost those athletes, and the team mates that they left behind.
When I was teaching at Harmony, I was talking to another coach, he stated he had coached the 5th and 6th boys teams a few years before. Off that team, 2 went to Holy Trinity, 1 was now the best athlete at Van Buren in his class and another was a very good player at Central Lee. So 4 of the five starters from the team he had were playing for rival schools, and this was 7 years before Harmony closed its doors.
Bottom line are parents are going to do what they think is best for their kid, even if the kid does not want to leave their friends and move.
You're right my wording was incorrect I should have said do more recruiting... 3 didnt get it done they need more.
I'm sure he will didn't he just start some wealth management business? That's good for at least 4 or 5 more parents to have jobs
Its happening and you dont have to believe if you dont want to. The economics arent threatened by handfuls of kids. It would take a several dozen.
Just because you would sue doesnt mean you would win or that others would. The reason can "officially" be whatever the school wants.
Sued by who? Each school can pick and chose the kids they want to allow to open enroll in or deny those that they do not as long as they live outside the district. If a kid that is a good athlete wants to go to a certain school, they are going to get in, whether its a public or private does not matter.
