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mustangcy

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That is incorrect. GoSCCTV was heavily supported by Knoxville. The Iowa Media Network team came to Knoxville and pitched the idea based on the amount of sponsors within the Knoxville area. And in the pitch they presented their top broadcaster to Knoxville. It wasn't a Knoxville thing to pursue them.

I mean...ok, whatever. I'll take your word for it, I'm certainly not in the know for how it all went down. What matters is that GoSCCTV would never have got off the ground without the support of the whole conference. It was rolled out to the whole conference, supported and promoted by all the schools. Businesses is all the districts financially supported it.

So if Dwayne and IMN are the bad guys here or Knoxville schools are the truth remains, what was sold to the conference and its schools and fans as a conference network is no longer a conference network and is now a Knoxville network.

Imagine Ohio St just taking the B1G network by saying.."well, most of the water is carried by Ohio St so lets just make it a OSU network..".

Imagine Valley doing this to a CIML...or a CIML network just going to Valley and saying "hey you seem to have more businesses supporting us, how about we just cover you from now on?"
 

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I would guess the PCM does not want to have to play the larger schools in the new conference, even if they are split, there are going to be a few cross over games. PCM is not really close to any other SCC team, at least the rest of the schools have one or two within a 30 minute drive, while the closest to them would be Eddyville, I would guess, a little longer than 30 minutes and then its an hour or further to everyone else.

Edit, Knoxville would be their closest game, then Eddyville. I keep forgetting they added Knoxville back after they had also left.
That's what I thought at the time. PCM moved to the HOIC my senior year. I missed the SCC. A lot of funny stories from playing away games in that conference happened that a lot of us still talk about today.
 

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In this day and age why does a conference need a video network? Cant the school just stream on youtube like everyone else?
 
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I would guess the PCM does not want to have to play the larger schools in the new conference, even if they are split, there are going to be a few cross over games. PCM is not really close to any other SCC team, at least the rest of the schools have one or two within a 30 minute drive, while the closest to them would be Eddyville, I would guess, a little longer than 30 minutes and then its an hour or further to everyone else.

Edit, Knoxville would be their closest game, then Eddyville. I keep forgetting they added Knoxville back after they had also left.
That's sort of the tradeoff most mid- to smaller schools in most of the state, at least outside of Central Iowa, have to consider. Be in a conference that crosses 2 or 3 classes in some sports vs. increased travel.
 

1SEIACLONE

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In this day and age why does a conference need a video network? Cant the school just stream on youtube like everyone else?
The schools do stream their games, but a conference network does provide them with increased exposure and a sense that we are all in this together, tightening the bonds that the schools have. With all these schools switching conferences over the past decade, its really difficult for the conferences to build up any loyality within the conference to rival schools. You can see that DC, Centerville and Albia have that, since they have been playing each other for decades, while that really fades away when those three schools play other schools inside the conference. Throw in Cardinal, which I still have not figured out what they were thinking and the whole conference is unsure of what is going to happen down the road.
 

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When we, Carlisle, play games against certain schools you start to recognize kids and while kids move in/out of the district you start to accept that some schools benefit from open enrollment for sports. North Polk, ADM and Gilbert come to mind. Van Meter has also benefited. Not sure what can be done but its def an issue.
 
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1SEIACLONE

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When we, Carlisle, play games against certain schools you start to recognize kids and while kids move in/out of the district you start to accept that some schools benefit from open enrollment for sports. North Polk, ADM and Gilbert come to mind. Van Meter has also benefited. Not sure what can be done but its def an issue.
Our daughter is a teacher at Gilbert and they are building a new lower elementary right now. The Supt has already stated her goal for that building is to move from 5 to 7 sections when the building is completed, so they plan on taking a lot of open enrollment and people moving into the district. What our daughter says is that in the past, lack of space in those buildings have stopped them, and the MS and HS has much larger class sizes than their building, all based on being able to take the kids..
 
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When we, Carlisle, play games against certain schools you start to recognize kids and while kids move in/out of the district you start to accept that some schools benefit from open enrollment for sports. North Polk, ADM and Gilbert come to mind. Van Meter has also benefited. Not sure what can be done but its def an issue.
Because those are all growing communities, I doubt they accept much for open enrollment. With all of the development in Polk City and north Ankeny that is now in the North Polk district boundary, they don’t have enough space for those who are residents of the district. In fact, I’d bet they are net negative with open enrollment (sending more out than in) because they don’t have room to accept much. I’d assume same for ADM with all of the development in Adel and for Gilbert with all of the development in north Ames. The districts that accept open enrollment are typically not growing communities, thus the need for non-tax payers to come. Districts like North Polk can’t bond for, and build, buildings fast enough for their growth.
 

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Because those are all growing communities, I doubt they accept much for open enrollment. With all of the development in Polk City and north Ankeny that is now in the North Polk district boundary, they don’t have enough space for those who are residents of the district. In fact, I’d bet they are net negative with open enrollment (sending more out than in) because they don’t have room to accept much. I’d assume same for ADM with all of the development in Adel and for Gilbert with all of the development in north Ames. The districts that accept open enrollment are typically not growing communities, thus the need for non-tax payers to come. Districts like North Polk can’t bond for, and build, buildings fast enough for their growth.
Correct, Gilbert generally does not accept open enrollment, even for children of staff if they don't live in the district.
 

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Because those are all growing communities, I doubt they accept much for open enrollment. With all of the development in Polk City and north Ankeny that is now in the North Polk district boundary, they don’t have enough space for those who are residents of the district. In fact, I’d bet they are net negative with open enrollment (sending more out than in) because they don’t have room to accept much. I’d assume same for ADM with all of the development in Adel and for Gilbert with all of the development in north Ames. The districts that accept open enrollment are typically not growing communities, thus the need for non-tax payers to come. Districts like North Polk can’t bond for, and build, buildings fast enough for their growth.
Doesn't really matter if they are growing or not, most schools accept open enrollment, especially for sports. There is a clear transfer portal, especially to the biggest, fastest growing suburban schools. Johnston had 6 transfers start on their state title soccer team last year.
 
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I mean...ok, whatever. I'll take your word for it, I'm certainly not in the know for how it all went down. What matters is that GoSCCTV would never have got off the ground without the support of the whole conference. It was rolled out to the whole conference, supported and promoted by all the schools. Businesses is all the districts financially supported it.

So if Dwayne and IMN are the bad guys here or Knoxville schools are the truth remains, what was sold to the conference and its schools and fans as a conference network is no longer a conference network and is now a Knoxville network.

Imagine Ohio St just taking the B1G network by saying.."well, most of the water is carried by Ohio St so lets just make it a OSU network..".

Imagine Valley doing this to a CIML...or a CIML network just going to Valley and saying "hey you seem to have more businesses supporting us, how about we just cover you from now on?"
I've got no dog in this fight but let's call a spade a spade here. If Knoxville can afford to just make whatever network this is their own I'm not sure the network was worth a **** to begin with.
 

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I've got no dog in this fight but let's call a spade a spade here. If Knoxville can afford to just make whatever network this is their own I'm not sure the network was worth a **** to begin with.

I'd probably just refrain from commenting on the subject.
 

1SEIACLONE

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Van Meter has limited theirs, too.

I think they take so many kindergartners a year via open enrollment only.
VM is trying to limit their growth so they do not bump up another athletic classification. So few families but will take that good athlete or two that is already in HS and can help them. But like everyone of these power house small schools, they watch their BEDS numbers like a hawk so they do not bounce up.
 
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VM is trying to limit their growth so they do not bump up another athletic classification. So few families but will take that good athlete or two that is already in HS and can help them. But like everyone of these power house small schools, they watch their BEDS numbers like a hawk so they do not bounce up.
DMC will be 3A in football next year, is what their coach told me. Not surprised by that.
 

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DMC will be 3A in football next year, is what their coach told me. Not surprised by that.
Private schools now getting public money is going to push a lot of kids from the large schools into the smaller schools when the state is picking up much of the tab. I believe next year all income limits come off, so even the high dollar family will be able to capitalize on the program. Will be taking away $1 billion total from public schools when its all said and done.
 
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