*** Official #3 IOWA STATE vs Arizona State Game(Day) Thread ***

We are 5-2 away from Hilton

3-1 in actual away games.

Struggling against a pretty bad Iowa team until late.
Struggled vs a terrible colorado team until late.
Would have lost to tech had their 90% ft shooter not missed
Terrible shooting at WVU and a loss.
 
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A 30 footer.

Effort is fine. Hard to play defense when its impossible to know what a foul is. I don't care if they call it right or call it loose, but you gotta be consistent

Geriatric refs need to go. The speed of the game has passed these refs by. It's really pathetic
You know who doesn’t have these kinds of issues/complaints? Houston.
 
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3-1 in actual away games.

Struggling against a pretty bad Iowa team until late.
Struggled vs a terrible colorado team until late.
Would have lost to tech had their 90% ft shooter not missed
Terrible shooting at WVU and a loss.
Don’t forget Colorado was also missing their best player that game due to illness.
WVU was also missing one of their best players too.
 
The biggest issue with Milan being out is bench scoring. We're getting pretty much nothing when Heise, Chatfield and Watson come in. Jones coming off the bench gives more scoring options with a 2nd line.
Didn't think struggles on defense was going to be a problem but this doesn't look good

The defense was a bit leaky even in the non conference and some trends are going to emerge occasionally evrn if there's imprivements.
 
We need to play our game, play some "D" and show them why we're #3 in the country and they are 2-5 in the Big 12! We need to pound it inside to the Presidents and see some motion from our guards.
 
AI refs is the world I want to live in and is the future.
I would have to see it in action. There is some nuance to it. It doesn't always have to be cut and dry. The main thing is constancy and not letting one team gain an advantage.
 
We finally have a legitimate seat at the big boy table, and we have too many here willing to stand outside in the hallway looking in again.

We're a top 3 team on everyone's short list of contenders.

The bar is what the bar is, silly Cyclones.
 
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You know who doesn’t have these kinds of issues/complaints? Houston.
They probably do, I don't know. Al I know is the five guys out on the floor have to figure it out, the stripes aren't going to save them on the road.
 
You know who doesn’t have these kinds of issues/complaints? Houston.
You think their fans weren't freaking out when they needed a last second bucket to win at UCF?
 
Damn there is a lot of gloom, despair and agony on here.
I’m not in despair about the season but the offense feels like it somehow reverted back to IZB year where we’re just hoping Curtis can get hot.

There’s little semblance of an action on offense too much dribbling and not finding the open man.

Keshon is great but the book is out on how to defend him. He does not take advantage of sagging double teams on pnr. He dribbles into it.

Feel we need to have Lipsey run pt. Have him get into a two man game with Jefferson or Jackson. Then kick out for shots or Gilbert slashing.
 
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If you look at the average lead/deficit on Torvick this is an ASU that has been thoroughly destoryed in 5 out of the 8 Big 12 games they've played so far, 5 out of 7 since Colorado at home shouldn't even count.

This will be a catastrophic loss to a terrible team with a terrible coach when it comes March.
 
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I know Milan is an asset, but he's also capable of completely disappearing just as much as going off on offense.
But realistically most teams are full of guys that are pretty variable. Having one more guy that might go off makes a huge difference, and those minutes are getting soaked up by guys that are either already playing heavy minutes and guys that give you very little offensively.

Losing Momcilovic is huge. Not that anybody can do anything about it, but his injury is huge.
 
The biggest issue with Milan being out is bench scoring. We're getting pretty much nothing when Heise, Chatfield and Watson come in. Jones coming off the bench gives more scoring options with a 2nd line.
Didn't think struggles on defense was going to be a problem but this doesn't look good
Joes is the only one scoring for us, not a good sign because he can’t play the whole game.
 

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