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This year is going to be extra for some teams with the roster limits coming online.

Are the roster limits effective for 2025?

I saw the QB from SE Polk is coming as a preferred walkon but aren’t walkons a thing of the past with the new limits.
 

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Pretty sure that Tyler Miller was the only contributing senior that I don't remember walking on senior night.

ISU roster lists Tyler Miller as a 2020 season redshirt, so he's got another year? That would be something if he does, and he decides to use it.
 

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Are the roster limits effective for 2025?

I saw the QB from SE Polk is coming as a preferred walkon but aren’t walkons a thing of the past with the new limits.
They are effective for 2025, a lot of teams running off players to meet this number. I wonder if we’ll give a scholarship to all 105 or some will be walkons?
 

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They are effective for 2025, a lot of teams running off players to meet this number. I wonder if we’ll give a scholarship to all 105 or some will be walkons?

SEC is staying with 85 scholarships from what I saw. 20 remaining will be walkons.
 
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Not exactly sure.
Are the roster limits effective for 2025?

I saw the QB from SE Polk is coming as a preferred walkon but aren’t walkons a thing of the past with the new limits.
The roster limit goes to 105 (not sure when exactly) and the scholarship limit increases to that. A school could still go 85 schollys and 20 walk ons if they want. When I was in school, Walden had 50some on scholarship near the end.
 
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The roster limit goes to 105 (not sure when exactly) and the scholarship limit increases to that. A school could still go 85 schollys and 20 walk ons if they want. When I was in school, Walden had 50some on scholarship near the end.

Wasn’t there also a change to add partial schollys with the new roster limit like FCS level? Say offer full 85 schollys but 20 half?
 

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Different kinds of honesty, I guess. We have some highly recruited kids in the TE room, mostly they're pups, but they're growing. This is from the pre-season roster:

18Benjamin BrahmerTE6' 7"250So.Pierce, Neb. / Pierce
27Tripp WalshTE6' 6"235R-Fr.Hartland, Wis. / Arrowhead
47CJ HaydenTE6' 6"240Fr.Cincinnati, Ohio / Indian Hill
48Jack BjornTE6' 7"275R-So.Parkville, Mo. / Park Hill South
49Stevo KlotzTE6' 4"260R-Sr.Chaska, Minn. / Chaska
82Tyler MooreTE6' 5"260R-Jr.Des Moines, Iowa / Johnston
84Gabe BurkleTE6' 6"260R-So.Cedar Rapids, Iowa / Prairie
85Keaton RoskopTE6' 3"235Fr.Cedar Rapids, Iowa / Linn-Mar
86Andrew KellerTE6' 6"245R-So.Waunakee, Wis. / Waunakee
87Cooper AlexanderTE6' 4"250Fr.Washington, Okla. / Washington

Klotz, of course, is gone. Now if Tyler Moore can just stay healthy. . . .

Keller and Alexander were highly recruited. Anyone here have intel on the prospects for TE next season?
You can't reliably count on under classmen in the transfer era.. Older teams win more than younger teams unless the pups are blue chip recruits, which we have none..

Burkle, and Moore taking BIIIIIIIIG massive steps would be the only reason to do that, not just in the pass game but also in run game blocking to make me change my mind.. Not impossible, just hasn't been done in the CMC era for two players to jump that much in one off season
 

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You can't reliably count on under classmen in the transfer era.. Older teams win more than younger teams unless the pups are blue chip recruits, which we have none..

Burkle, and Moore taking BIIIIIIIIG massive steps would be the only reason to do that, not just in the pass game but also in run game blocking to make me change my mind.. Not impossible, just hasn't been done in the CMC era for two players to jump that much in one off season
Burkle was really good after Brahmer got hurt. I was surprised at how well he played. Moore should take over Stevo's job. With Brahmer, Burkle, Moore and Alexander returning, I could see a couple other guys transferring out. Keller, and a couple of the walk-ons. Walsh might stick around because he got a good amount of playing time as a blocker in the backfield.
 
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1) If you bail too early on the plan and adjust, it can be seen as "panicking" by the team, and that's not great.
2) If you haven't worked on it too much, even if you manage to have a little success, again, its probably not sustainable and a little bit like plugging a leaking boat with your foot. Sure, maybe pressure and run blitzes slow the run down, but then inf you get beat by a 75 yard TD on an RPO (Or have the safeties scream up on 4th and 1 and get beat deep, etc) another hole can open.
That play really bugged me. Freyler bailed on covering a receiver when it was 4th and 1 and he was 12 or more yards off the line of scrimmage. Even if you guess right and it is a run you aren't getting to the line before it is already decided if he is getting the first down. If Freyler covers the guy and knocks it down, ISU is taking the ball over with field position and momentum. Upper classman has got to do better.
 

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That play really bugged me. Freyler bailed on covering a receiver when it was 4th and 1 and he was 12 or more yards off the line of scrimmage. Even if you guess right and it is a run you aren't getting to the line before it is already decided if he is getting the first down. If Freyler covers the guy and knocks it down, ISU is taking the ball over with field position and momentum. Upper classman has got to do better.
I can't be mad at Freyler. He's our best linebacker.

Yes; I know he's technically not a linebacker.
 

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That play really bugged me. Freyler bailed on covering a receiver when it was 4th and 1 and he was 12 or more yards off the line of scrimmage. Even if you guess right and it is a run you aren't getting to the line before it is already decided if he is getting the first down. If Freyler covers the guy and knocks it down, ISU is taking the ball over with field position and momentum. Upper classman has got to do better.

That play kind of baffled me as well. I can get a linebacker selling out on the run, but when you are 10 yards away from the ball what do you think you're going to help on a halfback dive?
 
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Yeah. And that's where losing Synder hurt. And I am a little curious if we might not be going back to a 4 man front. I know nothing but looking ath the frames and types of edge guys were getting, its either going to be 2-3 years before they are big enough / strong enough to play the 4i technique OR

we are looking towards a 4-2-5 or 4 man front cause a lot of them are like 6'4, 6'5 and 225. Which is really good size for a HS defensive end, etc... but to be a 4i, you'd probably want to be bare minimum around 260.


Now, I know it won't happen but from a starting point of a view that 4 down front next year could be salty as hell.



DE - Myles (Synder)
DT - TO
NG - Orange (Hawk)
DE- IDK



Depth does become a concern. But if there WAS ever going to be a year, a year where you lose 2/3 of our safeties and coming off a year where 99% of your LB was injured... it would seem to be it.


Will it happen? I seriously doubt it. But if it was every going to, it would seem to be now.
Snyder has entered the portal.
 

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That play really bugged me. Freyler bailed on covering a receiver when it was 4th and 1 and he was 12 or more yards off the line of scrimmage. Even if you guess right and it is a run you aren't getting to the line before it is already decided if he is getting the first down. If Freyler covers the guy and knocks it down, ISU is taking the ball over with field position and momentum. Upper classman has got to do better.
That was my feeling too, though as much trouble as the front six had at stopping the run at that time, it's hard to blame the guy for getting jumpy back there.
 
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Preseason, Heacock was asked about 4- vs. 3-man lines. IIRC, he said they actually play quite a bit of 4-man (did he say 40 percent?) Heacock, again iirc, said they always play a mix.

Anyone else here recall these comments?

I know there was talk of ISU playing more 4 man line during last offseason. But don't recall if that came from coaching staff or just media conjecture.

But Heacock could have also been parsing words. There is a difference in playing a front 4 of: Onyedim, Singleton, Orange and Petersen vs. a front 4 of: Onyedim, Singleton, Petersen and Ellis or McLaughlin (LBs).

I really don't think the 3 man front is an issue. But teams ran wide very successfully against our defense this year. The Cincinnati HC Satterfield even commented in his post game interview that our D-lineman are pinched very tight (guard to guard) more than other 3-3-5 teams.

Does it make sense for our defense to be a blend of a 3/4 front on run downs and a 3/3 on pass downs? I think guys like Freyler or Verdon could have easily walked into the box and been effective. I see the same physicality out of Patton, James & Neal next year.
 

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You can't reliably count on under classmen in the transfer era..

Right. Which is why our path is to development them from pups into dogs, or just give up.

Burkle, and Moore taking BIIIIIIIIG massive steps would be the only reason to do that, not just in the pass game but also in run game blocking to make me change my mind.

Well, let's see what the the portal and the spring brings. We're going to have what we have, who we can get and who we can develop. Is there another way for Iowa State?