2024-2025 MBB computer projections thread

CychiatricWard

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Not necessarily against Colorado, but one extra loss on the season... somewhere in conference play.
That doesn’t make any sense. If it’s counting this as a “conference game” we went from 14-6 to 14-7. Meaning this is the game they think we lose. Went from 8 losses to a projected 9 losses….
 

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That doesn’t make any sense. If it’s counting this as a “conference game” we went from 14-6 to 14-7. Meaning this is the game they think we lose. Went from 8 losses to a projected 9 losses….

I would imagine the computer also felt the Big 12 slate just became tougher with Kansas taking down Duke and Colorado taking down UConn. Utah also defeated MVSU (an obviously pitiful squad but a win is a win) though Houston losing a close/tough one to Alabama by five might mitigate that outcome. It wouldn't surprise me if our win expectation (a number between 0 and 1 for each game) for our matchups with Colorado and Kansas (both of which we play twice) ticked down enough to flip that number to round differently.
 

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Is it though?

I’m trying to be better about having “perspective”. I am confident that - if we go back through the threads from the past - many here thought the exact same thing the last 2 seasons at the start of the year, i.e. that our defense wouldn’t be as good as the year prior and our offense would definitely be much better than the year prior. I know we (collectively) did NOT think we had one of the best defenses in the country after 5 games last year, and it certainly wasn’t clear early on that we’d get there.

I’m really curious how things will play out. I do think we’re better offensively but I was told that the last 3 years and progress was slow - hell, our “much improved” offense last year went through some HORRIBLE stretches that saw our KenPom efficiency numbers absolutely tank in just a matter of weeks. So I’ll just be cautiously optimistic for now.

As for defense, I am concerned that we seem to be way less athletic and laterally quick. I dismissed this concerned pre-season; I’m not dismissing it now. But I’m hoping for some major improvements as the new bigs start to ‘get it’. And our legs look tired, overall. They really do. I think TJ’s offseasons are grueling but they’ll go through stretches here starting in January when they’ll be clicking on all cylinders. Likely followed by another late-season lull (as all TJ team’s have done, i.e. tired legs lead to shooting problems) and then hopefully a big energy boost/push post season.
I'm going to go back to what I said before the season started...BRE, Trae and Hason took awhile to play cohesive...The same will be true with our bigs now. And they're better offensively than the former.
 

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I'm going to go back to what I said before the season started...BRE, Trae and Hason took awhile to play cohesive...The same will be true with our bigs now. And they're better offensively than the former.
Jackson/Jefferson/Chatfield were really good in Maui.


They are a combined 37/46 from the FT line (80.4%) and shooting 48-74 on 2pt shots (65%)

The guards are also shooting very very well on 2pt shots - Gilbert (62%), Lipsey (61%) and Jones (57%) all shot around 45% last year. Will be very curious to see if they can keep that up.
 

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Jackson/Jefferson/Chatfield were really good in Maui.


They are a combined 37/46 from the FT line (80.4%) and shooting 48-74 on 2pt shots (65%)

The guards are also shooting very very well on 2pt shots - Gilbert (62%), Lipsey (61%) and Jones (57%) all shot around 45% last year. Will be very curious to see if they can keep that up.
I think teams are going to start trying to pack the lane against us. Will be key for others outside Milan and Jones to hit some shots. If Heise can be a threat from 3 and Tamin can get his shot right look out.
 

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I think teams are going to start trying to pack the lane against us. Will be key for others outside Milan and Jones to hit some shots. If Heise can be a threat from 3 and Tamin can get his shot right look out.
I think packing the lane would be a dumb idea against this team. Jones is shooting 40% this year and shot 36% last year. Milan is shooting 47% this year and 36% last year. Gilbert shot 35% last year and while off to a slow start this year he has only shot like 5 total. Lipsey is shooting poorly this year but he shot 39% last year. Heise shot 36% last year. We have some good shooters on the team and Nojus seems to be able to shoot the rock too. We essentially have two snipers in Milan and Curtis and then 3/4 guys that can shoot it well enough to keep the defense honest.
 

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I think packing the lane would be a dumb idea against this team. Jones is shooting 40% this year and shot 36% last year. Milan is shooting 47% this year and 36% last year. Gilbert shot 35% last year and while off to a slow start this year he has only shot like 5 total. Lipsey is shooting poorly this year but he shot 39% last year. Heise shot 36% last year. We have some good shooters on the team and Nojus seems to be able to shoot the rock too. We essentially have two snipers in Milan and Curtis and then 3/4 guys that can shoot it well enough to keep the defense honest.
Oh I agree but if you extend too much Gilbert is going to carve you up and we have bigs that are effective at the rim. This team is so loaded lol
 

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The computers liked that win over Colorado.

Auburn and Dayton continuing to show up helps, too.

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Two more chances for Q1 wins OOC before the Big 12 slate starts...

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For comparison, last year we were 0-1 in Q1 games out of conference (TAMU).

This year, we have a chance to go 3-1 in OOC Q1 games before the Big 12 schedule starts.

Marquette and Iowa are going to be big games for a serious push for a #1 seed.

Current final projections...

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Torvik still likes Houston for the conference title, though...

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I'll run everything through my SOS spreadsheet right before Big 12 play begins to see how balanced the schedules ended up with the OOC data included. Houston might just have an easy schedule.
 

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Per the analytics - we are favored in every game until we go to Lawrence on Feb 3rd

And favored in every game except @KU and @UH
Torvik has us as +0.4 at TTU.

I imagine who is favored there will vary based on where you are looking, and might flip as we get closer.
 

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Computers still like Houston even after the San Diego State loss?

I guess I don’t understand the love for Houston still. Are they a good team? Yes, are they as good as last year with Shead? No. I just don’t see them winning the conference at all.

Torvik loved them going into the season. I think they were the preseason #1.

Still #5 now despite the losses.

But if you filter out the preseason effects...

#5

Yes. Still #5. They have three losses but three "good losses" to #3, #9, and #39 (not so good then).

Iowa State is #11 without the preseason effects for comparison.

Oddly enough the Cyclones are #2 on offense (after Auburn) and #64 on defense so far.

Definitely has the feel of a team wanting to outscore people more than it has since TJ came back.