I don't know why I keep thinking he left - you are probably rightRathje I would guess.
Doesn’t take long for injuries to happen over there.Hearing Teemer may be out until Big 10s - wonder what their back up plan is
For me the problem is Terukina has peaked. And it’s nothing that has gained us much of anything. Put in the guys who are younger and roughly at the same level if rumored wrestle off results are to be believed. Absolutely no point in trying to wring more production out of a senior who has never earned more than a half point at nationals.It was me, and I will continue to follow that same logic always. I think more often than not, if you follow the proven results it will lead you correctly.
We know what we’re getting with Terukina, and we don’t with Meza. Simple as that. People on this board were saying Grice was clearly the better guy at 125 too, oh and don’t forget Osmany?
I have evidence for Terukina, not for the others. If Meza goes out and places at Vegas and knocks off a couple top 20 guys,I’ll be impressed. Until then he’s beaten a bunch of non-NCAA qualifiers and some D3/NAIA guys. Looks very talented, but what actual evidence points to him being better than Terukina?
FWIW, I also feel the same about MJ/Euton. I’ve seen what MJ can do, and haven’t seen the same from Euton. He’ll get his chance and if his results are actually better than MJ against good competition, we’ll all be very happy.
Hok gonna Hok. You have been on the wrong board for years. Stop pretendingI like KD but this is sour grapes. We started 4 transfers and not a one of them came for free. He would kill to have Iowa’s resources.
Good point. We're missing 80% of the meat of our lineup, plus Frost is just getting his weight under control and Younger has gotten on the mat only once & finding his gas tank. Frustrating now but CKLV will be a turning point hopefully.I miss all the action that 141-174 brought last year with Ech, Casey, Chittum, Carr and Gaitan
This. Last year we took a couple of dual losses, ended up being a good tournament team.Good point. We're missing 80% of the meat of our lineup, plus Frost is just getting his weight under control and Younger has gotten on the mat only once & finding his gas tank. Frustrating now but CKLV will be a turning point hopefully.
Many would argue we don't know what we are getting with Terukina. He can go out and beat a majority of AA's or he can fall flat on his face. You don't know which result is coming. I agree with the point I think you are trying to make is that Kysen has the potential to win almost any match and the potential for Meza is still unknown. I'm hoping CKLV solidifies the potential for Meza.We know what we’re getting with Terukina, and we don’t with Meza. Simple as that. People on this board were saying Grice was clearly the better guy at 125 too, oh and don’t forget Osmany?
I was high on Grice based on what I had seen/heard from the summer. I think Meza has just taken a major step in the last couple of months with full-time training in the roomMany would argue we don't know what we are getting with Terukina. He can go out and beat a majority of AA's or he can fall flat on his face. You don't know which result is coming. I agree with the point I think you are trying to make is that Kysen has the potential to win almost any match and the potential for Meza is still unknown. I'm hoping CKLV solidifies the potential for Meza.
If I recall @H82Lose was the only one really high on Grice.
Yes, there was multiple high in Grice.I was high on Grice based on what I had seen/heard from the summer. I think Meza has just taken a major step in the last couple of months with full-time training in the room
I would argue that Kysen has proven to be consistently inconsistent. The talent is there (beaten Barnett twice), but he has always been up and down. His best post-season result is winning 1 consolation match at NCAAs and his best seed was still in the 20s. I think the staff would be smart to send Meza to Vegas just to see what we have there. If he struggles, I am fine with going back to Kysen. If Meza impresses, I think he has a strong case to be the 125 for the year.Yes, there was multiple high in Grice.
When one wrestler is proven in competition, and the other only has stories from the room, I favor the proven wrestler until there is data to support the switch.
But you don't get that data unless you put them on the mat. Your argument that a true freshman isn't "proven" in November of the season makes little sense. Finally, I think the coaches know more than you do (shocker, I know) so if they put Meza out there, I'm trusting their decision.Yes, there was multiple high in Grice.
When one wrestler is proven in competition, and the other only has stories from the room, I favor the proven wrestler until there is data to support the switch.
I 100% agree. While Kysen is definitely proven inconsistent, Meza has not yet proven anything other than beating not good wrestlers.I would argue that Kysen has proven to be consistently inconsistent. The talent is there (beaten Barnett twice), but he has always been up and down. His best post-season result is winning 1 consolation match at NCAAs and his best seed was still in the 20s. I think the staff would be smart to send Meza to Vegas just to see what we have there. If he struggles, I am fine with going back to Kysen. If Meza impresses, I think he has a strong case to be the 125 for the year.
Agree. I’m just telling all the message board posters to pump the breaks. According to message board, we should be throwing KT to the curb and Meza is the guy. It’s way too soon to say that.But you don't get that data unless you put them on the mat. Your argument that a true freshman isn't "proven" in November of the season makes little sense. Finally, I think the coaches know more than you do (shocker, I know) so if they put Meza out there, I'm trusting their decision.
FIne. Also, to your post above, I think Meza has proved something: defeated a ranked wrestler under the lights at Carver.Agree. I’m just telling all the message board posters to pump the breaks. According to message board, we should be throwing KT to the curb and Meza is the guy. It’s way too soon to say that.
FIFYFIne. Also, to your post above, I think Meza has proved something: defeated a borderline NCAA Qualifier with an injured leg and huge weight cut after a 1 hour weigh in.