Mike Tyson to fight Jake Paul

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Connor has always had conditioning issues. I will disagree that boxers have better conditioning in general though. They don't have to wrestle like an MMA fighter.
I didn't mean to imply boxers had "better" conditioning than MMA guys. It's just a different kind of conditioning. If a boxer went into an MMA match and had to spend half the fight on their back fending off BJJ stuff, they'd probably gas just as hard as CM did. It's just not in their conditioning wheelhouse.
 
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You didn't like Fury and wilder trilogy? That's probably been most entertaining thing for me in boxing in a while
Meh, it was kind of entertaining but I regard both of them as products of a horribly lackluster heavyweight division. Wilder can punch but he's really undisciplined. He wouldn't last 3 rounds v. Tyson in his prime.
 
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I was a huge Tyson fan growing up in the 80s. I'll always consider him a top-10 heavyweight of all time, maybe even borderline top 5. He was terrifying. People who say he cleaned up on a weak division at the time don't realize that the reason it was perceived as a "weak" division was because with Tyson around nobody else could make a name for themselves. In most other eras, Tyrell Biggs would've been considered an all-time great heavyweight. Tyson splattered him, and that was that.

All that being said, a big part of what made Tyson so great, in addition to his freakish power and exceptional speed and head movement, was his mystique. Those guys were all beat before they even got into the ring. They were fighting scared the entire time. When Buster Douglas KO'd Tyson, the mystique was gone. He was beatable. The blueprint was there... you don't run from Tyson, you bully him. Enter Holyfield.

And to this day, I don't think I've ever seen a more perfectly thrown KO punch than Tyson's v. Botha. around the 2:25 mark below...


Reading up on Biggs, it seems he had some demons of his own with drugs and alcohol even before that fight.
 
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I didn't mean to imply boxers had "better" conditioning than MMA guys. It's just a different kind of conditioning. If a boxer went into an MMA match and had to spend half the fight on their back fending off BJJ stuff, they'd probably gas just as hard as CM did. It's just not in their conditioning wheelhouse.

I consider myself to be in decent shape. Work out 5-6 days a week split between cardio, lifting, and interval training.

I took one boxing class and that was the most physically taxing workout class I’ve ever taken. A normal person wouldn’t realize how hard it is until you have to do it. Now, I’ve never taken a jiu jitsu class, that may be harder. But boxing is no joke.
 

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I was a huge Tyson fan growing up in the 80s. I'll always consider him a top-10 heavyweight of all time, maybe even borderline top 5. He was terrifying. People who say he cleaned up on a weak division at the time don't realize that the reason it was perceived as a "weak" division was because with Tyson around nobody else could make a name for themselves. In most other eras, Tyrell Biggs would've been considered an all-time great heavyweight. Tyson splattered him, and that was that.

All that being said, a big part of what made Tyson so great, in addition to his freakish power and exceptional speed and head movement, was his mystique. Those guys were all beat before they even got into the ring. They were fighting scared the entire time. When Buster Douglas KO'd Tyson, the mystique was gone. He was beatable. The blueprint was there... you don't run from Tyson, you bully him. Enter Holyfield.

And to this day, I don't think I've ever seen a more perfectly thrown KO punch than Tyson's v. Botha. around the 2:25 mark below...


Nothing I'd love more than to see that exact same type of punch land squarely on Jake Paul tonight.

Great clip! Thanks for sharing.
 
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I grew up in the 80's in peak Mike Tyson time -- his heyday. Had Mike Tyson's Punch Out, etc. Now, my parents were too cheap to pay for Showtime or HBO, so I rarely got to watch his fights, but the mystique was certainly there (highlights, replays, etc). Later, as an adult, I have watched replays of every one of his professional fights. Some multiple times. He was unstoppable before he went to jail.

So yes, I want to see him knock this Paul guy out in round 1 so badly! But I don't think it will happen. We're talking a 30 year age difference, roughly. Tyson is pushing 60. Yes, George Foreman knocked out Michael Moorer when he was past his prime ... at 45! Not 58.

So I'd put the odds of "here's what happens" like so:

  • 70% chance they dance around each other the whole time and nothing/very little exciting happens.
  • 20% chance there are some moments of excitement (maybe a knockdown even) but no KO
  • 10% chance one of them wins by KO or TKO.

And man ... how badly I want it to be that 10%! (And Tyson being the one doing the knock out, of course!).

Early on, it was stated that there would be no win by decision. Just a draw if they both go the distance. Is that still the case?
Tyson won't dance around the whole time. Even if he's old, he will still throw some blows.
 

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That slapping deal looked staged/hype train oriented.

I'd guess this Jake Paul dude wins and a bunch of weirdos out there act like it was basically Ali/Foreman in their primes level achievement.

Gonna be a lot of Limp Bizkit blaring post fight all effin night tonight so get ready world!

FIFY.
 
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I still remember Buster Douglass beating him. Seemed like the biggest upset in sports history at the time.
It was up there. Lots of things worked against Tyson that night. He didn't have Kevin Rooney in his corner, he had a couple of bros who had no idea what they were doing. They didn't even have an endswell in his corner to blunt swelling over his eye, they were using a cold water filled balloon, which had zero effect. Buster Douglas had also just recently lost his mother. She passed away and they were very close. So that's kind of what led to him going in there and figuring out that getting in close and bullying Tyson was the way to beat him. He didn't care. He went in there thinking if Tyson killed him he'd get to be with his mom. So he had zero f*cks, was not scared, went straight at him and just beat him up. Unreal.
 

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It ain’t happening tonight as much as I’d love for it to happen. Tyson’s just there for his check
The Jake Paul faux boxing exhibits are a moneymaking machine. They're not going to allow anything to happen that would threaten to end that.
 
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