Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Not exactly sure.
Yeah kinda but they also loaned them close to 50 million. Rutgers is also just super happy to have a home, at least they get a full share in 2 years though.
So they bring all this money to the big ten and the big ten says, thanks for your money, now we are cutting your check until we feel we have taken enough from you. Truly a nice move by the big ten, lol.

How much has the big ten pulled from them in cut payments? It’s like taking on a new doctor who brings many patients with him that use many other services besides his and then the hospital says we are cutting your pay 20k a year for 7 years since we paid for 100k of your buyout, even though you are going to bring us an 5x anything we are paying you.
 
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If SEC annual media rights are $5-10 million per school higher, they'll end up in the SEC. Money always wins in realignment.
Money is how TV people get what they want.

Once ND, FSU, Clemson, and Miami are in the B1G or SEC, TV won't really care anymore. There may be more moves but they will be about the ACC falling apart (or not) and the G5 folks consolidating. After that it will be more about the other conferences trying to remain relevant somehow.
 

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No we’re not because ratings would crater and they couldn’t afford the payouts when you cut that many people out of the equation. If a new league was formed it would most likely look a lot like the P4 currently as far as membership
Agree, relegation/destruction of ORSt and Wazzu wasn't enough for Fed intervention. But if/when additional ACC schools also get relegated/destroyed, intervention does likely occur and it stops IMO.
 
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Agree, relegation/destruction of ORSt and Wazzu wasn't enough for Fed intervention. But if/when additional ACC schools also get relegated/destroyed, intervention does likely occur and it stops IMO.
I would be shocked if there was actual govt intervention personally. But whatever happens next to the ACC will be interesting. FSU picked a really bad time to look awful especially with how loud and annoying they have been. Not a good combo
 

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SEC has trailed behind the big ten money wise for over a decade. That won’t be the deal breaker.
I’m half joking, but what’s the $ value of having a propaganda arm in ESPN? Starting the season with 30-40% of the AP Top 25 inevitably shoehorns multiple SEC teams in contention for CFP spots, thus increasing payouts.
 

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I would be shocked if there was actual govt intervention personally. But whatever happens next to the ACC will be interesting. FSU picked a really bad time to look awful especially with how loud and annoying they have been. Not a good combo
Feds ultimately need to sign off on the House Settlement in order to supersede state NIL laws so I wouldn't be surprised to see realignment be pulled in as well for political reasons, especially if ESPN doesn't pick up their 2027 ACC option by FEB 2025 (and ACC implodes) in advance of House being completely signed off on which is likely IMO.
 

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Money is how TV people get what they want.

Once ND, FSU, Clemson, and Miami are in the B1G or SEC, TV won't really care anymore. There may be more moves but they will be about the ACC falling apart (or not) and the G5 folks consolidating. After that it will be more about the other conferences trying to remain relevant somehow.
I’m not sure Miami valued as high as people think they are.
 

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I’m half joking, but what’s the $ value of having a propaganda arm in ESPN? Starting the season with 30-40% of the AP Top 25 inevitably shoehorns multiple SEC teams in contention for CFP spots, thus increasing payouts.
It’s a valid point to bring up but it’s hard to say the SEC hasn’t earned some of the benefit of the doubt. Product on the field still matters though and the SEC shouldn’t have a problem getting 3-4 teams in with or without espn. Sadly we all know preseason rankings aren’t going anywhere
 

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No we’re not because ratings would crater and they couldn’t afford the payouts when you cut that many people out of the equation. If a new league was formed it would most likely look a lot like the P4 currently as far as membership
I see a lot of fans of the "lesser" B10 and SEC schools think this will not happen to them and their school. I am sure the Washington St. and Oregon St. fan bases were saying that the P12 would always be together and if not, someone will want them.
This whole concept is based on making money, and the more mouths you have to feed, the less money is there for those that are actually bringing in the largest share of that money. The Ohio States, Michigan, Alabama and Georgia's of the world, there will come a time when the networks realize that we do not need to keep giving equal shares to the Indiana' s and Northwestern's of these conferences, and by doing so, its costing them money. The question is not if, but when and how many.
 

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Nope. Only one conference has ever done unequal revenue sharing and we all know how much chaos ensued.
Oregon and Washington signed on for the pennies on the dollar compared to USC and UCLA, so we already have unequal funding in the B10, and I am not talking about a buy in period for those schools.
 

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Duh!
It's already happened to the Big 12 and the PAC-12. The TV stations negotiated the cream of the crop to go to the Big 12 and SEC, which at the time nearly cratered the Big 12 and now gutted the PAC-12. Heck, ESPN tried to kill off the Big 12 by moving brands out of there and shift the others to the AAC.

They'll do to the ACC next and eventually after the dust settles, how much will the tv stations want to keep paying high fees for NW, IL, Rutgers, MD, Indy, Purdue in the Big 10?
Agreed. i think the tipping point will be once the money peaks and then declines. Then, the big brands in those two leagues will be forced to eat their own.
 
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Oregon and Washington signed on for the pennies on the dollar compared to USC and UCLA, so we already have unequal funding in the B10, and I am not talking about a buy in period for those schools.
What do you mean by that? They get $1 million raises each year for the duration of the current deal and will 100% of the revenue share on the next contract.
 
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What do you mean by that? They get $1 million raises each year for the duration of the current deal and will 100% of the revenue share on the next contract.
They are only getting $30 million to start with, and do get a million dollar increase till the contract runs out in 29/30. More than what they would receive in the P12, but far behind the full share members.

 

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Duh!
Oregon and Washington signed on for the pennies on the dollar compared to USC and UCLA, so we already have unequal funding in the B10, and I am not talking about a buy in period for those schools.
What happens to teams ‘ revenues when B10 adds Rutgers and Maryland start getting a full shares? What the timeline for UO and UW to get full shares? Was there a prorata or will that cut into the pie? Trying to determine if the b10 pie is getting bigger or if slices have to get smaller, eventually. Obviously, a new Tv deal solve all that.
 

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Oregon and Washington signed on for the pennies on the dollar compared to USC and UCLA, so we already have unequal funding in the B10, and I am not talking about a buy in period for those schools.
They are in a buy in my man. They aren’t getting a limited share forever, that’s my point. A lot of new programs when added take a reduced share. Rutgers still is due to other issues
 

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