***Official 2024 Chicago Cubs Thread***

Nothing short of an organizational failure.
Inexcusable. You had to reset the tax this year if you weren't going for it.

How on earth do you allow this to happen?

Conversely, the Cubs could start acting like the giant market team they are but, alas, we know that's not going to happen.
 
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Inexcusable. You had to reset the tax this year if you weren't going for it.

How on earth do you allow this to happen?

Conversely, the Cubs could start acting like the giant market team they are but, alas, we know that's not going to happen.
Only way you can really get under is putting someone expensive on waivers. I don’t expect Jed to do so.

If all of this is true, he needs to be canned.
 
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I actually like it. The carveouts are 100 pitches, 4 ER or injury (with required IL stint).

The game still needs offense and action and the best way to do that AND to reduce pitcher injuries is actually teaching guys to pitch and not going max effort on every pitch every start. You'll still have gas in the pen but it would be nice to get rid of the ridiculous 'openers' and make guys diverse enough where they can still challenge hitters the 3rd time through.
I agree that's the biggest issue with the game and like that they're attempting to tackle the main issue. Does seem a little extreme though. What I'd like personally is when you pull your starter your pitcher becomes the DH. No pinch hitting. Will never happen but it'd create more strategy and maybe few more innings out of starters. Another idea Is limiting about of pitchers on the 26. Today it's not unusual that half the team is a pitcher. Teams used to have like 10
 
I think I like the idea of the 6 innings thing in theory but I’d make a few changes.

5 innings instead of 6 seems to make more sense to me. Not sure if it fully fixes the issue they’re trying to address but if you’re in a tight game in the 6th, your pitcher has been doing well but starts to get hit around and you have to leave him in until he gets to 100 pitches or 4 earned runs? Seems a little silly. I also think going to the bullpen in the 6th inning is totally understandable.

I’d also change the 4 earned runs exception to just 4 runs. If your SP gets two quick outs, then an error on what should have been the third out, and then the SP gets absolutely shelled after that, all of those runs are unearned but you can’t take him out cause they weren’t earned runs?

Other thing I thought about is pitchers that have been on the IL for awhile and then having to go 6 IP or 100 pitches right out of the gate just sounds like another injury waiting to happen.

I’m glad MLB is at least recognizing that there’s an issue. Wouldn’t hate seeing some rule change but just not as extreme
 

Another reason why Jed needs to go. He knew this at the deadline and just needed to trade 1 contract even if you got minimal return on it. If they go over and miss the playoffs how do you not clean house with the front office staff? Even giving Smyly or Neris away for whatever you can get that number safety gets you under luxury tax threshold was the only move you needed to make. And as discussed earlier it would be interesting to see what the offers for Taillon were as that would have accomplished this too.
 
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Going to games the next two days. Cubs are 0-5 in the last 5 games I've seen them in person. If this weekend goes bad, it's my fault.
 
I actually like it. The carveouts are 100 pitches, 4 ER or injury (with required IL stint).

The game still needs offense and action and the best way to do that AND to reduce pitcher injuries is actually teaching guys to pitch and not going max effort on every pitch every start. You'll still have gas in the pen but it would be nice to get rid of the ridiculous 'openers' and make guys diverse enough where they can still challenge hitters the 3rd time through.
I could see a scenario where there is an uptick in injuries as pitchers have to adjust but approaches will change and then we will see a drop off
 
I think I like the idea of the 6 innings thing in theory but I’d make a few changes.

5 innings instead of 6 seems to make more sense to me. Not sure if it fully fixes the issue they’re trying to address but if you’re in a tight game in the 6th, your pitcher has been doing well but starts to get hit around and you have to leave him in until he gets to 100 pitches or 4 earned runs? Seems a little silly. I also think going to the bullpen in the 6th inning is totally understandable.

I’d also change the 4 earned runs exception to just 4 runs. If your SP gets two quick outs, then an error on what should have been the third out, and then the SP gets absolutely shelled after that, all of those runs are unearned but you can’t take him out cause they weren’t earned runs?

Other thing I thought about is pitchers that have been on the IL for awhile and then having to go 6 IP or 100 pitches right out of the gate just sounds like another injury waiting to happen.

I’m glad MLB is at least recognizing that there’s an issue. Wouldn’t hate seeing some rule change but just not as extreme
I think the 6 inning rule this there because it allows the hitter to see the pitcher 3 times. The third time around is where most runs are scored. What you are saying is exactly what they want to accomplish, they want the SP to get blown up in the 6th. Baseball wants more offense.

I hear you on the IL stuff though they will definitely need to work that out. Also how do deal with cramping or a blister? Would suck to force a guy to IL just because of that. Maybe teams will just intentionally walk to get to four runs in that case to avoid the IL lol.
 
I think the 6 inning rule this there because it allows the hitter to see the pitcher 3 times. The third time around is where most runs are scored. What you are saying is exactly what they want to accomplish, they want the SP to get blown up in the 6th. Baseball wants more offense.

I hear you on the IL stuff though they will definitely need to work that out. Also how do deal with cramping or a blister? Would suck to force a guy to IL just because of that. Maybe teams will just intentionally walk to get to four runs in that case to avoid the IL lol.
I don’t disagree that baseball wants more offense but I disagree on that being the intention of the rule. I think they’re trying to combat the pitcher injuries and losing these star guys for a year plus cause they’re all trying to throw 100 mph with crazy spin every pitch. That would in turn probably lead to more offense. But if I had to guess, they’re more worried about the injuries and pitchers going all out to get through 4-5 innings
 
I don’t disagree that baseball wants more offense but I disagree on that being the intention of the rule. I think they’re trying to combat the pitcher injuries and losing these star guys for a year plus cause they’re all trying to throw 100 mph with crazy spin every pitch. That would in turn probably lead to more offense. But if I had to guess, they’re more worried about the injuries and pitchers going all out to get through 4-5 innings
I think I said this somewhere else on this forum but not to you. I do think this could lead to more injuries in short term as players will need to adjust approach but in the long term pitchers will have to realize they can't just go out and throw as hard as possible for 4 innings and get saved by relief pitching. Players used to pitch long into the 6th, so its not a matter if they can its just a matter of adjusting to the changes.
 
Inexcusable. You had to reset the tax this year if you weren't going for it.

How on earth do you allow this to happen?

Conversely, the Cubs could start acting like the giant market team they are but, alas, we know that's not going to happen.

The sad thing is this may have been Jed's version of "going for it".

And random observation: Apple TV has the best graphics in baseball.
 
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