I will never relax in my hatred of Utah. Funny enough, they used to be my Pac 12 team. The school itself seems alright, but those fans suck. The arrogant ***** can ingest a satchel of Richards. Borderline Hawkeye/Texas level of insufferability..
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I will never relax in my hatred of Utah. Funny enough, they used to be my Pac 12 team. The school itself seems alright, but those fans suck. The arrogant ***** can ingest a satchel of Richards. Borderline Hawkeye/Texas level of insufferability..
It is a good proposal but it isn't quite that simple. For example, there would probably be no legal basis to end NIL, which courts have ruled is an individual right of the athlete and not something that means it probably could not be collectively bargained.
You might do away with these collectives via an agreement to pay players at some point, but product endorsements and things of that type are here to stay.
This is dumb. They are mad because they got left out, reality is that won’t happen again to the acc champion. It was a fluke this year. I get it they want to leave, but wait the 5 years then move. It doesn’t help to do this now.
It will be settled, and FSU will exit. Maryland sued the ACC, and ACC countersued in 2014. They settled, and Maryland went to the Big 10. That's all FSU is hoping for, with larger stakes.
Yea, I don't think duress would be valid. Unless the duress was based on a knowingly false narrative pushed by the ACC Office to its schools to keep the ACC together.
I have to believe FSU feels there were promises made by ACC Office regarding upside to media rights value during 2025-2036 period and doesn't appear they will happen. Those monies might be tied to cable/streaming subscriber #'s or monthly carriage fees.
FSU could also hope lawsuit creates instability within ACC. Enough to have ND jump to Big10, even if NBC is willing to pay ND around $75M/year. I would think if ND buys their way out of ACC, then ESPN might have ability to reopen contract or contractually reduce their existing media rights fee to ACC.
It’s a good proposal that would be best for the fans and the athletes. But it won’t happen because the conference this coach belongs to would lose their financial advantage.
This has been brewing. One of their officials very publicly said something a few years ago like it’s a travesty that UCF is making more conference money than FSU.
I agree with you. I just think they’re getting antsy and now it’s come to a head
From what has been released so far, it seems their better route would be to fight the validity based on the agreements made that weren’t in the original paperwork (based on claims by FSU and not corroborated). If that’s true that the commissioner adjusted the deal without knowledge of the schools, it may give a way to get out. Should’ve made them all initial every page like you do with mortgages.
And remember, they’re not trying to invalidate the deal with ESPN. They’re trying to invalidate the GOR with the ACC. So it’s based on whether they can prove the conference was untruthful to them.
That was my question as well. It sure looks like ESPN has the option to renew or set payment.
So maybe FSU's bluster is to give ESPN and/or Notre Dame pause to remain partners with ACC.
Everyone said they'd be stupid to. They're still stupid to. There's no real case here. They signed what they signed up for knowing full well the decision they made. That they're now mad about it after cashing the checks for several years isn't a valid reason to get out of the contract they signed.
Yep. That lawsuit asserts that the jurisdiction is in NC.
And past precedent would indicate they'll win that, as they already did in a similar case vs Maryland when they left.
Maryland only owed about 50 mil to leave at the time. The ACC settled for an amount less than that, but likely was at the breakeven point between what they settled for and what litigation would have cost.
FSU's departure would cost them something like half a billion dollars. The settlement point is massively higher.
Agree, this is what any settlement will boil down to IMO, not the GOR itself which is good for the B12.
Couple things.
1. Gotta believe FSU will take less than a full share for a short (3-5 years) window if it gets them out of ACC. Especially, if their cost to litigate/penalties are lower than expected.
2. There are reports that Virginia and Virginia Tech are tied to the hip by their BOR. Unlike UNC and NCST. That doesn't mean they would both need to go to same conference, but both would need homes in Big10/SEC or maybe UVA subsidizes VT if UVA is in Big10/SEC and VT is in ACC/Big12.
