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The hawks sent nearly their whole squad to a D3 meet yesterday with mixed results. I think the coaches needed to see what they had in some of their guys before getting to Ames. After those results, here is my updated predictions.

125 - Ayala v Kysen: 3-0 hawks
133 - Frost v Teske: 3-3
Teske got dinged up so he will need to recover
141 - Woods v Frost: 6-3 Iowa
149 - Ech v VV: 6-6
157 - Chittum v Franek: 9-6 Iowa
165 - David v Caliendo: 9-9
174 - Gaitan v Arnold: 12-9 Iowa
184 - Feldkamp v Swafford: 12-12
197 - Broderson v Glazier: 15-12 Iowa
Hwt - Bastida v Hill: 16-15 Cyclones Win

I realize that Ech could be down to 141 from the inside sources here and Casey could be in at 149. For now, I’ll keep my predictions as such. Until I see Chittum doing it, I’ll have to go with Franek. I think Gabe is a little better than Gaitan and I hope that doesn’t turn into a major. Swafford is a very quality wrestler and I think he keeps it to a decision. Broderson could beat Glazier but for dramatics I gave that toss up to Iowa. With a Broderson win we can comfortably walk into the last match. I’ve decided Bastida will major Hill although I’m not surprised by a decision. CYCLONES WIN!
 

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I started to write some thoughts and realized I could write pages and pages on some of these matchups, so decided to save it. I’ll do an updated prediction after this weekend.

I’m curious if anyone has thoughts on the starting weight? I’m not seeing a clear choice from ISU’s perspective. I think I’d want to avoid 125 because I worry that Ayala’s gas tank could be a major factor if Terukina doesn’t have a great cut.

Would ISU want to start with Carr? Then you would 74 which I think is really close, 84 where ISU is a strong favorite, 97 which is a tossup, and a big favorite at heavy. We could be up 13-3 after that stretch, if not more.
 

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I started to write some thoughts and realized I could write pages and pages on some of these matchups, so decided to save it. I’ll do an updated prediction after this weekend.

I’m curious if anyone has thoughts on the starting weight? I’m not seeing a clear choice from ISU’s perspective. I think I’d want to avoid 125 because I worry that Ayala’s gas tank could be a major factor if Terukina doesn’t have a great cut.

Would ISU want to start with Carr? Then you would 74 which I think is really close, 84 where ISU is a strong favorite, 97 which is a tossup, and a big favorite at heavy. We could be up 13-3 after that stretch, if not more.
I hadn’t thought about it but as far as getting things heated, TV ratings, and drama - I could see them starting at 174 and ending with Carr. That would make the dual score very close going into final matches
 

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I could easily see if being split 4 and 4 matches going into the final 2 if they start at 174. That leaves us Chitt and David
 

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Feels like there will be more majors in there. Especially with the new rules. And I like that in some of our matchups.
Possibly, but guys tend to be coached to tighten up in big matches like this. Which weights you thinking?
 

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Possibly, but guys tend to be coached to tighten up in big matches like this. Which weights you thinking?
David and Feldkamp

I also think if Yonger goes last, he will be beyond juiced and scoring more then 4 is a very real possibility
 
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David and Feldkamp

I also think if Yonger goes last, he will be beyond juiced and scoring more then 4 is a very real possibility
For what it’s worth Caliendo has 7 career losses all by decision, including his RS year. The kid is pretty good but I’d love to see David use the new score rules to light it up
 

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For what it’s worth Caliendo has 7 career losses all by decision, including his RS year. The kid is pretty good but I’d love to see David use the new score rules to light it up
I get it but David is still David and it’s his last cyhawk. He will want to put on a show.
 

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Feels like there will be more majors in there. Especially with the new rules. And I like that in some of our matchups.
Not sure the new rules make much difference for Feldkamp’s chances for bonus. He’s a put you on your back type of guy, not really a td/release. David, however is a good call. 3 TDs, RT, and escape to 3 escapes is a major. That seems entirely possible even as good as Caliendo is.

On the flip side, I think they also help Ayala’s chances at bonus. If he gets rolling, he could rack up 3 TDs in the 3rd period to blow it open.
 

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Not sure the new rules make much difference for Feldkamp’s chances for bonus. He’s a put you on your back type of guy, not really a td/release. David, however is a good call. 3 TDs, RT, and escape to 3 escapes is a major. That seems entirely possible even as good as Caliendo is.

On the flip side, I think they also help Ayala’s chances at bonus. If he gets rolling, he could rack up 3 TDs in the 3rd period to blow it open.
I more so met rules impacting David’s match. And Yongers. I hope Feldkamp gets a fall and brings the house down.
 

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I started to write some thoughts and realized I could write pages and pages on some of these matchups, so decided to save it. I’ll do an updated prediction after this weekend.

I’m curious if anyone has thoughts on the starting weight? I’m not seeing a clear choice from ISU’s perspective. I think I’d want to avoid 125 because I worry that Ayala’s gas tank could be a major factor if Terukina doesn’t have a great cut.

Would ISU want to start with Carr? Then you would 74 which I think is really close, 84 where ISU is a strong favorite, 97 which is a tossup, and a big favorite at heavy. We could be up 13-3 after that stretch, if not more.
I actually wouldn't mind starting at 125. Yonger would know then if he needs a major or a tech to win the dual and could let loose.
 

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I actually wouldn't mind starting at 125. Yonger would know then if he needs a major or a tech to win the dual and could let loose.
I'd feel more confident with David going out and getting a major or a tech to win his final Cy-Hawk dual than Yonger. Plus there is a decent chance Iowa State wins 74-Hwt. and gets bonus out of Feldkamp and Yonger, that would give us a bunch of momentum to start the dual.

Anyone know how tall Arnold is? I think Gaitain's length will give him trouble at 74. I think starting at 74 would give Swiderski time to recover from the cut, I'm not sure how much that will play a factor now that he's up at 49 but it never hurts to have more time to refuel and rehydrate

And quick question, will Ech be able to go at 141 by the Cy-Hawk dual?
 
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I'd feel more confident with David going out and getting a major or a tech to win his final Cy-Hawk dual than Yonger. Plus there is a decent chance Iowa State wins 74-Hwt. and gets bonus out of Feldkamp and Yonger, that would give us a bunch of momentum to start the dual.

Anyone know how tall Arnold is? I think Gaitain's length will give him trouble at 74. I think starting at 74 would give Swiderski time to recover from the cut, I'm not sure how much that will play a factor now that he's up at 49 but it never hurts to have more time to refuel and rehydrate

And quick question, will Ech be able to go at 141 by the Cy-Hawk dual?
Given the matchup, I like putting that on Yonger. David has a defending AA, and I think there is a chance he could tech if he really went for it, but a tech for David would be <.01% chance imo.

I’d also be concerned about Ech against Woods? Do we know if he can avoid the turn? His bottom has been a major weakness in the past. Not just inability to get away, but also getting turned/pinned.
 

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Given the matchup, I like putting that on Yonger. David has a defending AA, and I think there is a chance he could tech if he really went for it, but a tech for David would be <.01% chance imo.

I’d also be concerned about Ech against Woods? Do we know if he can avoid the turn? His bottom has been a major weakness in the past. Not just inability to get away, but also getting turned/pinned.
Totally fair with the matchup Yonger has idk why but I still forgot both the NDSU guys transferred to Iowa.

Woods is super tough on top but if and it's a big if Ech can stay out from bottom I like Ech to get a takedown more than Frost in a one takedown match
 
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