Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I don’t think you understand my point. Nobody is trying to recreate the NFL. Rather the media rights could be reworked among the networks similar to that of the NFL.
I guess that league would just need a fabulously wealthy foreign despot that was willing to lose truckloads of money over the span of several years.
If anything college football was ruined long before NIL, and it’s easy to make the 1980s and OU suing the NCAA the starting point.
NIL is nothing more than the beginning of the removal of the facade and revealing that the NCAA is nothing more than a professional sports league masquerading as an amateur league, and has been that way for decades.
KidSilverhair
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It’s not so much they’re running out of money; it’s where the money is coming from. There’s definitely a ceiling as to how much they can get from advertising - so next will be some kind of subscription model, where fans will be paying directly to watch college football.
This isn’t necessarily worse (although it feels like it is, and not just because a college football subscription will also continue to have commercials), but it’s going to make it a much starker decision for fans. Paying $$$ right out of your pocket is a much more immediate choice that requires consideration compared to giving up your time to watch ads during a game on TV.
KidSilverhair
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KidSilverhair
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It’s kind of funny to see the argument being ”soon there’ll be so much money schools won’t even care about getting more!”
Greed has been driving this from the start. A quick look at human nature shows us that will never change. If Ohio State or Michigan or Georgia or USC sees the chance at $75 million or $100 million more a year, they will take it, even if they don’t have any idea how they’re going to spend it.
Don’t say that kind of back door maneuvering isn’t impossible - it’s exactly that kind of back door maneuvering that nearly allowed ESPN getting OuT into the SEC - and the Big 12 would have been completely blindsided by it had A&M not raised the red flag to the sus activity.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if one of the reasons why ESPN agreed to negotiating the new media deal with the Big 12 early and why we got the deal we got was due to lawsuit mitigation. That was how badly ESPN nearly ****** over the Big 12 and nobody ever saw it coming.
This is a critical point.
And its a key reason Yormarks strategy to really focus on and leverage value from basketball is both smart and correct. 20 years from now the Big12 might be the most valuable conference...
The problem is right now these are elite events because fans from a league of 60 plus teams watch a couple teams play a fairly rare matchup after building up good records after a bunch of non-elite matchups. Big viewership numbers are driven by fans outside the two schools.
So if these big matchups start matching teams with poor records, or in an explicitly separate league from most colleges, the viewership isn’t going to be what they are for the same matchup now. It might be a game against two big names, but it’s not an elite event anymore.
A lot more goes into an elite event than just the two teams. It’s the teams, what’s on the line, records, and rarity.
The NCAA is a basketball tournament management firm primarily, with a role as a kind of HR department for other college sports, but its control over football is in name only.
There’s only 2 things you can say that are WRONG when it comes to re-alignment and CFB transformation.
1) ________ will never happen
2) There’s already enough money
The rest is fair game for discussion.
1) ________ will never happen
2) There’s already enough money
The rest is fair game for discussion.
The Big easy and the SEC are content now because the money from their tv deals continues to rise every time they do a new deal. Schools get used to having an ever-increasing set amount of dollars. Say because of cord cutting both leagues are told by FOX and ESPN that the money is just not there for an increase for the next contract? Does Ohio State and Michigan just set back and say OK, or do they start to think that they are the reason for those large contracts and maybe the Purdue's, Maryland's and Rutgers should take less so their slice of the pie continues to go.
Everyone loves working for the business when the bonuses increase every year, only when that stops happening does trouble start.
It wouldn't take the LIV model, there are a lot of billionaires in the US. There are a lot of very wealthy individuals who would like to own NFL franchises, but can't because there are only 32 available.
I don't like the idea, but I can see it potentially happening. Jack Swarbrick, Notre Dame's AD, discussed a possible path earlier this year when speaking about the current state of college athletics. He mentioned because of pay-for-play NIL and student-athlete employee status, there are universities that may not participate in such a model because it is beyond the core mission of their universities. What he described was football programs divested from the University and operating as a separate for-profit entity. It's under that scenario where I think a super league could develop.
SI Article -ND Athletic Director
Guess I don't understand all this debt....I thought most of these schools print money?
Quite the stupid idea. It would kill national interest in college sports. If your team isn't competing on the same playing field as the "super league", most fans wouldn't continue to follow it. Hope they do it and lose their asses.
Just wait until one of the two (probably SEC by going to a nine game schedule and the large number of low value games in the B1G) gets a media deal a good bit larger than the other. This is the basis for nearly every realignment move of all time. Media entities know how and when to turn the screws.
It's an idea based on the premise 'anything could happen.' So in that sense, they're not wrong. Just like I could bump into Cindy Crawford at an airport and we instantly fall in love with one another and jet off to St. Barts together.
I know that if some concentration of the best programs into one conference were actually to happen that Iowa would be left at the kiddies table, no doubt. I just don't think it's going to happen for many logical reasons, and if I'm wrong, it'll be many years down the road and by that time KF and BF will be gone and I'll be just as happy.
