Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[2speedy1]

Ouch that’s no fun.

Here’s the thing though, those teams only left when they were given no other option. They stayed loyal till it was clear there was no deal at all to be had. Which is also kind of insane because 6 of the ten are getting paid 30mil per year, add in the LA schools and you have a deal worth the same or more as the Big12. If the PAC had competent leadership they would be intact.

Now look at the SEC. Those schools like bama and Georgia could have jumped to the big ten to make more money. By your logic they would have. But guess what, they don’t leave because the extra money isn’t worth the hassle and breaking of tradition. Same reason the big ten schools wouldn’t leave to pursue a couple extra million that they don’t need.

Here is what I think you arent getting.

So lets say the next round, the media partners are saying well we paid too much last time, so even with rising costs and inflation, we are going to offer, either the same or maybe a little less for the next deal. In the SEC and B1G.

At the same time they start telling the Alabamas, and the Ohio States of the world, they will give them double to leave and create a new league, hell even if its not a super conference, just a new conference in the same system, but with all bluebloods, making 200M per year.

Are you telling me that schools like Michigan, and Georgia are going to say naw we good making half that in the B1G...because...loyalty, history, or everything else that has been completely thrown out the window over the last couple decades?

That is how I see it being possible. First the media partners offer the big dogs to create a new conference. Then down the road that conference brakes away at some point.

Again this is just a possible scenario, but a scenario that at least makes the idea plausible.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Lol

When was he in school?

That looks like Big 8 not Big XII!

 

[Die4Cy]

With how well the Big 12 has come out of this whole deal, the master class BY gave to the PAC in media strategy and leadership, and how strongly the Big 12 has emerged with a very solid set of additions, it's just weird to me how much of the focus here is on how in 20 years the middling B1G and SEC schools might fall victim to a superconference. But whatever.

Whatever, indeed.

A couple power five universities just got relegated to G5 status. Let's at least try and remember that. This stuff isn't all good. At least here we don't pretend these risks don't exist, having watched them play out in obvious ways over the last dozen years or so.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Here is what I think you arent getting.

So lets say the next round, the media partners are saying well we paid too much last time, so even with rising costs and inflation, we are going to offer, either the same or maybe a little less for the next deal. In the SEC and B1G.

At the same time they start telling the Alabamas, and the Ohio States of the world, they will give them double to leave and create a new league, hell even if its not a super conference, just a new conference in the same system, but with all bluebloods, making 200M per year.

Are you telling me that schools like Michigan, and Georgia are going to say naw we good making half that in the B1G...because...loyalty, history, or everything else that has been completely thrown out the window over the last couple decades?

That is how I see it being possible. First the media partners offer the big dogs to create a new conference. Then down the road that conference brakes away at some point.

Again this is just a possible scenario, but a scenario that at least makes the idea plausible.

Because the level of back door maneuvering to make that happen is borderline impossible. Plus the money for the AD has diminishing returns. The presidents of the pac didn’t want to leave a sinking ship you really think big ten presidents would leave a super yacht? Borderline insane to think that way. Like I’ve said texas is already giving extra money back to the university, the same thing is being proposed at Michigan with the new deal. All these amazing facilities and coaching salary’s are with the old contracts. With the new ones who the hell knows what they are going to spend all the money on and yet your still thinking that they are going to “need” more and the big ten presidents would go for blowing it all up? No way.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

I guess that’s the problem. I can’t tell you with a high degree of certainty that something won’t happen that far out. But to the same point it’s futile to try to think that far out. 15 years ago in 2008 no one would have even believed or thought of Rutgers to the big ten. Let alone the LA schools. We don’t even know what the media landscape would look 15 years from now. 15 years ago Netflix was only a dvd sevice and a new one at that. That’s just so long to be saying anything with any confidence.

I get this point. But 10 years isn’t that long of time. I remember 2010 like yesterday when CU bolted, then Nebraska, then Mizzou and A&M the following year. I found it unthinkable that a conference as strong as the B12 was on the precipice of collapse. That was 13 years ago.

In 2010, I can assure you the P12 did not believe its collapse was a mere 13 years away. June 29, 2022 (one day before USCLA announced it will be departing) ALL P12 fans would have told you no way that in little more than a year, the conference would be gone.

10-15 years isn’t that long of a time. And if/when a Super League happens, it will seem as unthinkable as it was to me in 2010 and the P12 in 2022 to those who haven’t been paying attention

 

[Cmonwhatarewedoinghereman]

Lol

Doosh!

 

[Cmonwhatarewedoinghereman]

Lol

Sorry doosh was distasteful. He is a man of some standing. What i should have done was make a meme of that picture and the javelin is the B1G logo, the sun devil logo and Apple TV and said “go f*** yourself Washington state”

 

[cyclones500]

Have Stanford come to the B12 and then lure Notre Dame to the B12. JK! Maybe.

That's such a crazy idea that Yormark might actually attempt it.

 

[Die4Cy]

Because the level of back door maneuvering to make that happen is borderline impossible. Plus the money for the AD has diminishing returns. The presidents of the pac didn’t want to leave a sinking ship you really think big ten presidents would leave a super yacht? Borderline insane to think that way. Like I’ve said texas is already giving extra money back to the university, the same thing is being proposed at Michigan with the new deal. All these amazing facilities and coaching salary’s are with the old contracts. With the new ones who the hell knows what they are going to spend all the money on and yet your still thinking that they are going to “need” more and the big ten presidents would go for blowing it all up? No way.

Conferences and university presidents have never mattered less.

TV calls all the shots now, and they are going to mine every cent of value out of the university brands they now own, as they attempt to bring in front of a dwindling number of spectators.

 

[danvillecyclone]

superconference will still have bottom feeders.

Means you have Blue Bloods and Psuedo Blue Bloods and Non-Blue Bloods

and all of the Psuedos and Nons think they are Blue Bloods.

However, they will try this new Era for a while until change becomes profitable again.

The powers that be, want to fix the game to have the Blue Bloods in the final four or 8 or 12 of any CFP.

Can’t do it in Basketball, but you can sure stack the field in Football by giving multiple entries to top 2-3 conferences and keeping bottom feeders around. Regular season wins translates to higher CFP appearances.

Stack the deck and it will work in your favor.

 

[simply1]

Scheer seems to be killing all the big 12 outlets as well with information.

 

[simply1]

This was 100% Arizona looking to ease their departure right?

I’d certainly love to know who called who

 

[ISUTex]

Cal and Stanford to the ACC? Is that for real?

 

[qwerty]

Cal is in a world of hurt financially. Their AD is over $400M in debt. Surprised to see Iowa with large of debt.

 

[Buster28]

Cal and Stanford to the ACC? Is that for real?

I don't think so. Talks are preliminary to see if anything can be worked out. What I've seen so far is that it's a long shot at best with a league that has limited time remaining as FSU is looking to get out ASAP.

 

[FerShizzle]

Cal is in a world of hurt financially. Their AD is over $400M in debt. Surprised to see Iowa with large of debt.

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Barta probably planning on Iowa taxpayers picking up some of the tab here.

 

[2speedy1]

Cal is in a world of hurt financially. Their AD is over $400M in debt. Surprised to see Iowa with large of debt.

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Cal has huge payments, like 18m per year just for interest, which is set to increase in the next couple years. Mostly due to the renovations and retrofitting for earth quakes on their stadium.

Iowa is well known to spend out of their means...then try to get out of paying for it after the fact. Its surprising the BOR continues to let them get away with it.

 

[Buster28]

Cal is in a world of hurt financially. Their AD is over $400M in debt. Surprised to see Iowa with large of debt.

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This all stems from the financing for their renovations to Memorial Stadium. From the stadium's Wikipedia article: As of June 30, 2016, the fund balance was $60.98 million, far short of the $215 million that had been claimed five years earlier. The roughly $18 million interest-only annual payments on the debt consumes 20% of Cal's athletics budget and 15% of the campus structural deficit; principal repayment begins in 2032 when the annual debt payment will rise to about $26 million per year, about $28 million in 2033, about $30 million per year for 2034–2038, and about $37 million per year for 2039–2044. The debt payments are scheduled to continue for 100 years from its 2013 inception, concluding in 2113. On November 3, 2017, Chancellor Carol Christ announced that the university would overtake the earthquake retrofitting expenses part of the renovation. This amount is estimated to be approximately 60 percent of the total expenses or $200 million with the remaining expenses still being retained by the athletic department. Exactly where in the budget the funds would be taken was not announced, although the chancellor did state that they would not be taken out of student tuition or tax-payer funds for the university. It was not ruled out that the money could be taken out of funds for academic departments.

 

[t-noah]

Wonder what formula he used to evaluate Brand value!

The OuT Entitlement Point of View System

 

[qwerty]

Bruh, SEC would take Florida State in a heartbeat.

Sounds like Florida State has already started their SEC techniques . . . .