Downtown Royals Stadium
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Dammit, I swear every time I think of those new apartments my mind keeps telling me they are on the other side of the river when, in fact, they are right next to Berkeley south of the river.
Had they done this a few years ago, that spot (and where the Currents new stadium is going) or the West Bottoms (tear down Kemper), might have been the best bets (probably the latter). The loop going around Kemper possibly provides some options but DT has a lot of issues with capacity/exit infrastructure for this sort of thing. I mean, just trying to get into downtown coming from the east is a disaster. You have 3 exits with the first being Paseo to even access DT. I just don't think it will work (well).
Bottom line, before they design the stadium there needs to be some realistic planning in terms of traffic flow and logistics. If they simply push the stadium there then hope everything else falls into place it will be a disaster.
Have any events happened since the Royals were purchased that may impact that plan? Major loss of revenue due to COVID? Being much further behind on the rebuild than projected due to Dayton’s failures? Our regional sports network going bankrupt?
I suppose those were all rhetorical questions since you were not even aware we fired Dayton last year and came here to complain about him still being here.
We’re in a rebuild. Sorry man, but if you think this was the year to spend a bunch on free agents in order to win 72 games instead of 68, you are clueless.
Did you just complain about us getting rid of O’Hearn? He has zero value. That’s why he’s in triple A right now. He’s the last player you should worry about. Every team has players at his level readily available in the minors.
And where is Mondesi ? On the DL yet again. I personally liked the idea of taking a flyer on him, but he’s injured jet again.
Ownership fired Moore for the ****** trades you referenced, many of which were under Glass.
Your arguments are more aimed at Glass and previous management. Vent about past failures all you want, but you are off base in blaming Sherman or Picollo this quickly.
Do you honestly believe the stadium will be sited without planning for traffic flow and logistics? Of course that will be part of the process.
Yeah I can’t believe no one wanted to give up anyone of value for a no power “power hitter” and an injury prone SS who’s still not recovered over a year after ACL surgery.
You bring up AAAA players while pining for a guy who on his best day is barely even a serviceable AAA player.
Fair points. Yes maybe more pointed at Glass/Moore than Sherman/JJ, but at this point just seems to be an extension of the same.
My point on O'Hearn is he is 100% a hitter that was negatively impacted by the shift. If they were going to keep him on the 40 man at the beginning of the season (they did) - then they might as well see if he can do anything without the shift. They should have cut him right away if they were going to do so and then they wouldn't have had to keep a 40man slot for him. Thats more of my complaint with how they handled the situation.
Will see how they manage this younger group of players. Think they missed the window to give Witt a pre arbitration contract extension below market (Acuna/Franco). Will have major decision to make soon on Singer, which is only pitcher they've been able to actually develop. Sherman hasn't done anything at this point that makes me think he's going to do anything different. He hasn't even attempted to sign a free agent outside of Grienke. Hope he proves me wrong, but seems his focus is on stadium versus current team.
Royals have the third longest playoff drought in the majors, which is fascinating to me.
O’Hearn was very bad. And not even young anymore. And who on this team would you sit for him to get at bats? He plays 1B, you want to bench Vinnie for him? You want him blocking a real prospect like Nick Pratto?
Personally I don’t think Witt wants an extension with the Royals. I think he plans to keep his options open to explore free agency. I agree that I really like the idea of locking up Singer.
I don’t see any reason to spend heavily on free agents the last couple years. Now is the time to play the young guys and see what we have.
Kemper makes some sense, but I think you really need walking viability to downtown - and that cliff and RR tracks makes impossible. Guess you could run a street car line there but seems very difficult to me.
My ideal spots would have been 19th & Oak (before that apartment building got put up). Or my personal favorite which doesnt get talked about enough is to take out the softball complex around Penn Valley and put it there. Play slowpitch there currently and the view of downtown is amazing and think could find a way to work something around Union Station.
Sorry I shouldn't have turned into an argument on OHearn, but my point was they should have just non tendered him at arbitration time. Instead they got stuck holding a 40 man spot for him, and then traded him AFTER the shift rules came thru. Should have just non-tendered him originally if he was so bad. I agree he sucks, but I think he could be 'serviceable' with no shift. Only in a backup/PH role though, not to block any of the young guys.
I agree with this. Way too early to blame anybody in current leadership positions. What I will caution people about though is assuming revenue/payroll will drastically increase with a new stadium, it probably will have very little effect. The Royals should build a new stadium if they want to but they should also be actually honest with fans and the community about what effect it will have. They'll still be WAY behind the top teams and will need to still build through the draft and their farm system.
I agree there is nothing wrong with letting any of the guys go. Mondesi couldn't stay healthy and he's 27 now, he's not exactly a spring chicken. O'Hearn is the definition of a replacement level player.
There is reason to be hopeful for the future, some of the advanced stats look good for this team (walk rate and hard hit rate are both top 3 in the league in this very early season) and their top 3 rounds of draft picks last year are all starting out in high A ball, so the future might be bright. Chapman is throwing 103+ frequently again, so he might be a guy you can flip for draft picks after June 15th if he can stay healthy and his arm strength stays high.
It was a very odd way of handling it. But the situation with him is meaningless for both the present and future of this team. It’s a non-issue. We ultimately cut a replacement level player since there isn’t room for him on the lineup or the roster.
Do I kind of believe they will push this through without really coming up with a viable solution? Kind of. Yes, they will "plan" for it but I expect it to be a rather rainbowish assessment, with the "solutions" falling well below what's needed. 71's stoplights have been a disaster since the day they were installed. 71 also has a dearth of exits and one of those exits runs next to Truman Hospital. For safety purposes you can't have a parade of cars ******* up entry and emergency services to Truman and Children's. There's no good way to access 70 or 35 right there and I'm not really sure how you fix it.
Saying they will plan is one thing. But actually thinking about the layout and it's constraints and limitations makes this a gargantuan undertaking. Short of building/widening several roads (eminent domain) and building several more exit/on ramps I just don't see how this works.
The more I think about it, the more I wish the city would push aggressively for an NHL team and let the Royals go somewhere else. The metro isn't big enough to sustain 3 major sports teams (plus Sporting and the Current) as there aren't enough people, money, or corporate sponsorship dollars to prevent major cannibalization. But I think hockey would work without the Royals, and I think the franchise would have the capabilities to be more competitive (consistently).
No reason for the city to get bent over to keep a team that sucks ass 95% of the time. The NHL, from an in-person experience perspective, is infinitely better than the other 3 major sports. It also has a salary cap structure that makes it easier for smaller market teams to survive. Baseball? Not so much.
No reason for the city to get bent over to keep a team that sucks ass 95% of the time. The NHL, from an in-person experience perspective, is infinitely better than the other 3 major sports. It also has a salary cap structure that makes it easier for smaller market teams to survive. Baseball? Not so much.
The AZ Coyotes don’t have a home in PHZ any longer. They could play at the Sprint Center….
Don't know much about the KC plans, but this sure applies to the A's, and others.
Thought about this the other day. Many times, the economic benefit is over-promised and overstated and does not pan out. Mr. K in KC had the right idea with finances. A new ballpark in KC is Ill-fated.
It was silly for Tempe to try and make this work anyway. Too small a city to pull the weight these franchises want. At least they put it to a vote.
I've wondered, why can't they play in Suns arena? Maybe not setup for ice but you'd assume they could remodel?
I'd love to see the Coyotes in KC. One of the big selling points of the Sprint Center when it was built was to move the Penguins to town. Super Mario bought the team and kept it in Pittsburgh
