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I can't see TCU not losing at least 1 spot with the loss today. The two ways I could see it playing out...

1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Ohio St.
4. TCU

Or...

1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Ohio St.
4. Alabama

Could come down to the committee choosing between a Michigan v. tOSU semi, or rolling the dice and chancing a Michigan v. tOSU championship game. I don't think they'll want to take that chance.
anything could happen, so I won’t say this with finality, but if dormant Ohio State (not good enough to play this weekend, fix your crap Big Ten then you won’t have this issue) moves up not one but two spots because they rewarded for not playing then this thing is more effed up than I thought. And it’s already effed up.
 
anything could happen, so I won’t say this with finality, but if dormant Ohio State (not good enough to play this weekend, fix your crap Big Ten then you won’t have this issue) moves up not one but two spots because they rewarded for not playing then this thing is more effed up than I thought. And it’s already effed up.
I could see the scenario of OSU jumping to 3. I don’t think there’s a chance in hell Bama takes the 4th slot over TCU though. There’s just a lot of consternation here of people seeing ghosts.

I will be the first one here for a mea culpa though if the committee proves me a liar
 
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anything could happen, so I won’t say this with finality, but if dormant Ohio State (not good enough to play this weekend, fix your crap Big Ten then you won’t have this issue) moves up not one but two spots because they rewarded for not playing then this thing is more effed up than I thought. And it’s already effed up.
Repeating myself a little form previous post ... in regard to positioning, I guess the only semi-viable argument I could see for Ohio State jump ahead of TCU is that it's "best loss" (U-M) is better than TCU's "best" (KSU). But again, TCU split w/ KSU and its loss came in overtime (in the title game).

It'd seem like a manufactured excuse if committee did it that way, but at least the reasoning for doing so wouldn't be a completely bonkers stretch of logic.
 
This. It’s should be but it’s not designed for the 4 best teams.

The 12 team format should help this but they'll probably just do 6 B1G teams and 6 SEC teams. BTN, SECN CBS and ABC cover it like the NCAA tourney early rounds.

Game Day crews for all will look like the time Quagmire discovered what the internet had.

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I could see the scenario of OSU jumping to 3. I don’t think there’s a chance in hell Bama takes the 4th slot over TCU though. There’s just a lot of consternation here of people seeing ghosts.

I will be the first one here for a mea culpa though if the committee proves me a liar
The more I ponder, moving Alabama into the 4 seems like it'd require so much somersaulting that it wouldn't be worth it to committee. Although it can invent whatever reasoning necessary, they still have to describe the selection process and justify it.

And at this point if there's a perception committee favors SEC 1st, Big Ten 2nd, if at all possible, I wouldn't get too greedy. Playoff could have 2 BiGs, and SEC at #1 and the definite favorite to win the title. Trying to force 'Bama into the mix seems like not worth the effort.
 
The more I ponder, moving Alabama into the 4 seems like it'd require so much somersaulting that it wouldn't be worth it to committee. Although it can invent whatever reasoning necessary, they still have to describe the selection process and justify it.

And at this point if there's a perception committee favors SEC 1st, Big Ten 2nd, if at all possible, I wouldn't get too greedy. Playoff could have 2 BiGs, and SEC at #1 and the definite favorite to win the title. Trying to force 'Bama into the mix seems like not worth the effort.
Yep and they don’t have too much to worry about because if they would put TCU at 4 for some reason, the Dawgs will route the Frogs barring wonky bounces. In the end, it’s about crowning a champion and I think as long as the committee has Georgia and Michigan in there, they have the best team in the bracket. Most of these semifinals have been lopsided affairs either way.
 
So you’re saying both teams in the P5 CCG games are automatically in? Because that’s the only way you could announce the playoff field prior to the CCGs …

”Sure, Purdue is only 8-4, but since they might get an upset and win the B1G CCG, guess they better be in the playoff field! Just to be safe!”

(Yes, I know the conferences are all going away from divisions so the chances of a 3-loss team making a CCG is less likely, but still … naming the playoff field before the CCGs makes conference championships almost meaningless)
Nope. I'm saying from a 12 team playoff selection process, I don't care who plays in the respective CCG's.

After the regular season (12 game season) is over:

1. Identify the 6 highest ranked teams from P5 & G5.
2. Select the next 6 highest at-large teams to fill out the 12 team field.

Play the CCG's and then seed the 12 team field. That way Conference Champions get rewarded with higher seed if we have situations like ND/Clemson or UGA v Bama in the past.

This avoids arguments regarding teams hurting their ranking by having the 13th data point (USC or TCU losses) vs. teams sitting at home and not having a difficult 13th game (Bama, Tenn or Ohio State).

The difference in a 12 team playoff, the argument will be shifted to whether teams like Clemson (#9), KSU (#10), Utah (#11) or LSU (#14) should benefit or be hurt by their CCG win/loss. Versus schools like Washington (#12) or Florida State (#13) possibly moving into the playoff by sitting at home.

G5 is a bit different because there is potential non of it's 5 CCG ten teams will be in the top 12- so that might have to be determined after the CCG.
 
anything could happen, so I won’t say this with finality, but if dormant Ohio State (not good enough to play this weekend, fix your crap Big Ten then you won’t have this issue) moves up not one but two spots because they rewarded for not playing then this thing is more effed up than I thought. And it’s already effed up.
Has a team ranked in the top-4, or really ranked anywhere in the top-25, ever held its spot following a loss?
 
The more I ponder, moving Alabama into the 4 seems like it'd require so much somersaulting that it wouldn't be worth it to committee. Although it can invent whatever reasoning necessary, they still have to describe the selection process and justify it.

And at this point if there's a perception committee favors SEC 1st, Big Ten 2nd, if at all possible, I wouldn't get too greedy. Playoff could have 2 BiGs, and SEC at #1 and the definite favorite to win the title. Trying to force 'Bama into the mix seems like not worth the effort.
There's no way they'll drop TCU out of the CFP given the USC loss.
 
Nope. I'm saying from a 12 team playoff selection process, I don't care who plays in the respective CCG's.

After the regular season (12 game season) is over:

1. Identify the 6 highest ranked teams from P5 & G5.
2. Select the next 6 highest at-large teams to fill out the 12 team field.

Play the CCG's and then seed the 12 team field. That way Conference Champions get rewarded with higher seed if we have situations like ND/Clemson or UGA v Bama in the past.

This avoids arguments regarding teams hurting their ranking by having the 13th data point (USC or TCU losses) vs. teams sitting at home and not having a difficult 13th game (Bama, Tenn or Ohio State).

The difference in a 12 team playoff, the argument will be shifted to whether teams like Clemson (#9), KSU (#10), Utah (#11) or LSU (#14) should benefit or be hurt by their CCG win/loss. Versus schools like Washington (#12) or Florida State (#13) possibly moving into the playoff by sitting at home.

G5 is a bit different because there is potential non of it's 5 CCG ten teams will be in the top 12- so that might have to be determined after the CCG.
It’s my understanding the 12 team field is the P5 conference champions plus the highest ranked G6 conference champion and 6 at-large teams … although maybe that was just a proposal and not set in stone.

Still, if you know the playoff teams before the CCGs, why the hell are you playing the CCGs? For seeding? Naw, I say winning a conference ought to be a requirement to make the CFP (if you can’t even prove you’re the top team in your conference, why should you be given a chance to be crowned the top team in the nation?) but I know my opinion is not universally held. My way basically turns CCGs into a de facto first round play-off, which is okey dokey with me.
 
I think its Sh!tty that people bag on Cincinnati for losing to Alabama last year by 20, but everyone forgets that Michigan got absolutely woodshedded by Georgia.
Then you have the SEC Title game right now at 34-7 at half time, but nobody talks about how LSU doesn't belong.

But all we will hear is TCU doesn't play anyone in the Big12 and doesn't belong.
I think whoever gets the 4 seed is going to get destroyed by Georgia. They are just that good. unfortunately for the B12 and TCU, it will probably be them. which will again look bad on the conference.
 
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I think its Sh!tty that people bag on Cincinnati for losing to Alabama last year by 20, but everyone forgets that Michigan got absolutely woodshedded by Georgia.
Then you have the SEC Title game right now at 34-7 at half time, but nobody talks about how LSU doesn't belong.

But all we will hear is TCU doesn't play anyone in the Big12 and doesn't belong.
I think whoever gets the 4 seed is going to get destroyed by Georgia. They are just that good.
I always thought the same thing about Cincinnati and TCU is going through the same thing. Yet we're watching LSU get absolutely throttled and there won't be that discourse in the future about them always getting blown out by UGA.
 
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Ohio State is in, so it basically boils down to either TCU or Alabama and who gets the 3 and 4 seeds.

They just showed TCU and Alabamas resumes on ABC, I dont think there is any question now that TCU still gets in.

If they end up getting left out because of Alabama then this thing is a total travesty.