Jeff Woody hopes we lose to TCU on Saturday

[Rogue52]

While I will cheer for the Big 12 in the post season, it’s overrated for conference supremacy. By the time Fall 2023 rolls around, the exact same blue bloods and conferences will be favored by the media.

I didn’t listen to the podcast, but it is a bad take based on the OP synopsis.

 

[fsanford]

For the sake of conference integrity moving forward, based on the most recent FARTcast. He mentioned that it would be good for the Big 12 to have someone other than Oklahoma make the CFP, to prove that moving forward, the conference is a still a serious contender without the two big dogs to prop us up.

What say you? Do you agree with Jeff, or are you a loyal son forever true?

If ISU wins they may back into a bowl. That might convey no change is need with regards to staff. It's a conundrum

 

[HFCS]

I think there's a 50% chance they get left out even if they are 13-0.

The committee will invent some new criteria at last minute to justify jumping the loser of Ohio St/Michigan over them even though the Big Ten season is basically a one game schedule and there's zero need to rematch that one game.

A second SEC team probably deserves it more that TCU so hard to complain. There you have it.

This TCU team isn't as good as the one loss TCU team that got screwed years back for "lack of 13th data point". I think that team was straight up #1 team in the nation heading into postseason and got left out. Very likely could have been national champion.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I think there's a 50% chance they get left out even if they are 13-0.

The committee will invent some new criteria at last minute to justify jumping the loser of Ohio St/Michigan over them even though the Big Ten season is basically a one game schedule and there's zero need to rematch that one game.

A second SEC team probably deserves it more that TCU so hard to complain. There you have it.

This TCU team isn't as good as the one loss TCU team that got screwed years back for "lack of 13th data point". I think that team was straight up #1 team in the nation heading into postseason and got left out. Very likely could have been national champion.

If it’s Ohio state with win loss then that’s a maybe, Michigans schedule is too weak to get in over an undefeated TCU. A one loss TCU is a different story but an undefeated in is in over a one loss Michigan.

 

[Jeffrey Scott]

Remember 2011 when we ruined OKST's chances at a national championship? Turned our games with them into a new rivalry.

I honestly don't care about the outcome of this game, but it would be nice for us to upset the apple cart again, get great national publicity, gain some momentum for next year and have something to sell for high school kids thinking about Iowa State.

The fans deserve a break and so do the kids on the team. I'm sad for them that the year has been so frustrating especially the defensive unit. It delivered.

 

[HawaiiClone]

I don't know if we get less (we actually might get more money) if we go to a bowl versus TCU going to the CFP. But having a team in the CFP for conference recognition purposes is helpful. Although if they lose big in the SF that takes the luster off the appearance.

All this said, it would be poetic justice for us to have lost 6 Big 12 games by 7 points or less and then beat a team that has won 7 Big 12 games by 10 points or less.

 

[Clone95]

There’s no reason not to root for ISU because there’s a pretty good chance TCU loses to KSU in the CCG.

I’ll also be rooting for ND, South Carolina, and Auburn.

 

[TitanClone]

I think there's a 50% chance they get left out even if they are 13-0.

The committee will invent some new criteria at last minute to justify jumping the loser of Ohio St/Michigan over them even though the Big Ten season is basically a one game schedule and there's zero need to rematch that one game.

A second SEC team probably deserves it more that TCU so hard to complain. There you have it.

This TCU team isn't as good as the one loss TCU team that got screwed years back for "lack of 13th data point". I think that team was straight up #1 team in the nation heading into postseason and got left out. Very likely could have been national champion.

At this point there's 0% chance they get left out at 13-0 with the likes of Bama and Tennessee having 2 losses.

 

[HawaiiClone]

If ISU wins they may back into a bowl. That might convey no change is need with regards to staff. It's a conundrum

If ISU wins by a small margin, I hope CMC still realizes that the offense isn't what it could be with better coaching.

 

[jctisu]

At this point there's 0% chance they get left out at 13-0 with the likes of Bama and Tennessee having 2 losses.

Thank you! Look I distrust the CFP committee as much as anyone because they have a clear agenda and will do whatever it takes to make what they want happen BUT they have to at least have a starting point to get to what they want.

Note: Each committee is different, so we have to keep that in mind so I say everything with that caveat too.

If TCU runs the table the committee has nothing to fall on. They just don’t as TCU is no different (maybe better) than Cincinnati last year. There is not a pile of undefeated teams to justify keeping an unbeaten TCU out.

What happened to the Frogs in 2014 is not even close to the same right now.

1) They would be undefeated while everyone other than Georgia and Ohio State/Michigan would have at least one loss. In 2014 they were in a pool of one-loss teams (Ohio State and Baylor). People forget the only reason Florida State got in that year was because they finished unbeaten. That team was not good and escaped all year by the skin of their teeth then got trucked by Oregon in the Semifinal. So an unbeaten TCU makes it this year.

2) We have a conference championship game now so all things would be equal or better for TCUs case

3) Same as number 2 but it needs to always be called out for its stupidity. We don’t have the Big 12 ******* everything up with the whole, “One true champion” tag line that epically blew up in their face

 

[HFCS]

At this point there's 0% chance they get left out at 13-0 with the likes of Bama and Tennessee having 2 losses.

They dropped them 3 spots for no rational reason previously. They could do it again.

This the committee that gave us 6>12 math.

The only constant with the committee is they’ve always crafted new rules for whatever benefits Ohio State in the current moment. They haven’t really had to bend criteria for the SEC but my guess is they would.

 

[TitanClone]

They dropped them 3 spots for no rational reason previously. They could do it again.

This the committee that gave us 6>12 math.

The only constant with the committee is they’ve always crafted new rules for whatever benefits Ohio State in the current moment. They haven’t really had to bend criteria for the SEC but my guess is they would.

Sure, 2014 only had 1 undefeated team tho and a handful of 1 loss teams. This year we could see 3 undefeated teams after CC games. Leaving the 4th spot to USC, Michigan/tOSU loser and LSU in that scenario.

 

[mj4cy]

ISU first and always first....but if there is ever a year to have a tiny consolation it'd be this year. Would be nice to get Big12 representation that's not OuT.

 

[HFCS]

If it’s Ohio state with win loss then that’s a maybe, Michigans schedule is too weak to get in over an undefeated TCU. A one loss TCU is a different story but an undefeated in is in over a one loss Michigan.

Not sure how you can assume this.

They won by 48 and got dropped from 3 to 6 in the past. The committee has a history of making up new criteria on the fly that directly contradicts its old criteria.

 

[HFCS]

Sure, 2014 only had 1 undefeated team tho and a handful of 1 loss teams. This year we could see 3 undefeated teams after CC games. Leaving the 4th spot to USC, Michigan/tOSU loser and LSU in that scenario.

They’ve showed me the current rankings are totally meaningless.

 

[jctisu]

Not sure how you can assume this.

They won by 48 and got dropped from 3 to 6 in the past. The committee has a history of making up new criteria on the fly that directly contradicts its old criteria.

Love your posts almost always but I have to check you on this one. I get the conspiracies around the committee and it’s all valid. But undefeated TCU isn’t getting left out. They just aren’t. Now a 1-loss TCU then your worries are completely legit. They will take the brands over a 1-loss TCU without hesitation. But without a blemish on TCU’s record not even the committee wants that smoke from a potential legal side.

If there was was a pool of five unbeaten teams, including TCU, say it’s Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame and TCU then they would be in trouble.

Having Ohio State win out here actually helps TCU because I the Buckeyes have been the one school the committee appears to bend all rules for.

All of this won’t matter though because Kansas State is beating TCU in the Big 12 Championship

 

[mj4cy]

Not sure how you can assume this.

They won by 48 and got dropped from 3 to 6 in the past. The committee has a history of making up new criteria on the fly that directly contradicts its old criteria.

Yeah I remember they destroyed ISU and got rewarded by being dropped 3 spots.....and the kicker was after the bowl season they were moved back up to the top 4 for the final rankings....

 

[HFCS]

Love your posts almost always but I have to check you on this one. I get the conspiracies around the committee and it’s all valid. But undefeated TCU isn’t getting left out. They just aren’t. Now a 1-loss TCU then your worries are completely legit. They will take the brands over a 1-loss TCU without hesitation. But without a blemish on TCU’s record not even the committee wants that smoke from a potential legal side.

If there was was a pool of five unbeaten teams, including TCU, say it’s Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame and TCU then they would be in trouble.

Having Ohio State win out here actually helps TCU because I the Buckeyes have been the one school the committee appears to bend all rules for.

All of this won’t matter though because Kansas State is beating TCU in the Big 12 Championship

What about the week to week rankings have made you think they have meaning and are locked in stone? What I’ve observed is “we’ll make up whatever the **** we want on the last week”.

I think the SEC would get the same favors as OSU but just hadn’t needed them. I think multiple SEC teams are actually better than TCU, unlike the year they got screwed where I thought TCU should have been #2 or #3 and was playing best in nation.

The Big 12 is deepest conference but I don’t think we have an elite team this year. TCU or Baylor could have both won it all that year they screwed TCU. Hope I’m wrong but I think they’ll get smoked this year.

 

[HFCS]

Yeah I remember they destroyed ISU and got rewarded by being dropped 3 spots.....and the kicker was after the bowl season they were moved back up to the top 4 for the final rankings....

I’d have voted them #1. They had one road loss to a top ten team with the help of a blown call. Pretty much curb stomped rest of their schedule compared to this year’s team. Ohio State lost at home to a 6 loss acc team.

 

[mj4cy]

I’d have voted them #1. They had one road loss to a top ten team with the help of a blown call. Pretty much curb stomped rest of their schedule compared to this year’s team. Ohio State lost at home to a 6 loss acc team.

Yeah I remember many facebook post rants that season....and my SEC friends justifying their 8 game schedule and late november cupcake matchups ect.